That's truly what is wrong with business types. Not all, but too many couch everything in terms of winners and losers. Too many mgrs talk arrogantly to couriers because in their minds, and I get this from comments made, if you had anything on the ball you'd go into management instead of just being a courier. From where I'm sitting, 5 weeks shy of being 59, 30 is still young. A lot of twentysomethings haven't figured out yet what they want to do for the rest of their life but if one has decided on something, is working to reach that goal, and has chosen a very worthy field that isn't lucrative but very important, he should be applauded. I would applaud your accomplishments too, but from your own posts know how much you detest people who come from middle class backgrounds and haven't achieved anything noteworthy.