President Trump

Turdferguson

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Thanks to Democrats' needless shutdowns. President Trump is pushing to get America back to work. That's what voters want, and they're gonna get it.
MAGA.
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refineryworker05

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Because those hugely rich people are your bosses they determine whether you have a job or not , That's the reality ! Common sense tells you if you increase their taxes which Democrats have always done and will continue to do it costs people their jobs because rich people never take a hit financially they just pass it on to the little people , live the real world dude ! You
know nothing about how the economy works and neither do the Democrats in Congress!!!!!
First off most employees don't work for large corporations or hugely rich people(although I guess this depends on how one defines "hugely rich"), but you are missing my point, corporate taxes being higher has not resulted in lower rates of employment. Look at the employment and jobs records of Democratic presidents and republican presidents and you'll see this firsthand. By the way the key to job growth is product demand. Meaning consumers paying products create jobs. Allowing a small group of very wealthy Americans to dictate our national tax policy makes no sense
 

refineryworker05

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And in the end we will all regret it , just ask Canada and the UK a healthcare system there is subpar compared to what we have , America's healthcare system is number one in the world ! There is a reason why people come here from all over the world to get medical care , you will wait a long time to see a doctor ! And as per usual the burden will be on the middle class to pay all the bills for everybody
None of this is true and it doesn't even make sense. Instead of waiting for a doctor which Americans do as well, we spend more money and millions of Americans forgo seeing a doctor period.
 

refineryworker05

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He absolutely banned drilling on public land including fracking. The boom was happening on private land which he couldn't stop. But once the boom was going good he did take credit for it in spite of not doing anything to help it.
No he didn't ban anything. This is all make believe. The majority of fracking was always on private land. Like what point is that even to make? Unless the government owns the majority of land in America which it doesn't not even close..... How is saying oh most of the fracking took place on private land make any sense?
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
He absolutely banned drilling on public land including fracking.
No he didn't ban anything.



 

vantexan

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No he didn't ban anything. This is all make believe. The majority of fracking was always on private land. Like what point is that even to make? Unless the government owns the majority of land in America which it doesn't not even close..... How is saying oh most of the fracking took place on private land make any sense?
The government is the single biggest landowner in the American West. By a long shot. Bureau of Land Management. National Forest Service. National Parks.
 

vantexan

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No he didn't ban anything. This is all make believe. The majority of fracking was always on private land. Like what point is that even to make? Unless the government owns the majority of land in America which it doesn't not even close..... How is saying oh most of the fracking took place on private land make any sense?
It's ok. Like most liberals you believe you're 100% right about everything until you get better informed. As Ronald Reagan once said: "Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so." :)
 

refineryworker05

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You said federal lands and this "ban" was at the end of his presidency which had no impact on the discussion we are having. This proves my point. You had to search a "ban" that never took effect that wasn't on federal land and that happened at the end of his presidency. So in fact, there was no ban on federal land and hell there was no ban that went into effect. That wasn't even fracking. You just all over the place with this. This was off shore drilling. The second one again was at the end of his presidency, one was about Native lands and the other was about contested leases that were from 1982. None of this fits with the point. LOL. Carry on.
 

refineryworker05

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The government is the single biggest landowner in the American West. By a long shot. Bureau of Land Management. National Forest Service. National Parks.
What is your point? Now you all on the American West and BLandM federal agency. Like what? First this wasn't limited to just the American West. So that is a point you are just making up. This was about fracking in America. Hell, Is most fracking done in the American West? From what I know, No its not, so what is your point? Its like you are throwing unrelated nonsense up to prove a non existent point. Smh lol
 

vantexan

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What is your point? Now you all on the American West and BLandM federal agency. Like what? First this wasn't limited to just the American West. So that is a point you are just making up. This was about fracking in America. Hell, Is most fracking done in the American West? From what I know, No its not, so what is your point? Its like you are throwing unrelated nonsense up to prove a non existent point. Smh lol
Most fracking is done in areas where getting at oil is very difficult with conventional means. The easy oil may have already been extracted. Oklahoma, Texas, North Dakota come to mind. No one is talking about drilling in New Jersey. Doesn't matter. Most fracking/drilling was done on private property where Obama couldn't stop it. To give him credit for an oil boom when he was adamantly against fossil fuels is ludicrous. Name the laws/executive orders under his watch that promoted exploration and drilling anywhere?
 
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