President Trump

[Jkloc420]

And Mexico will pay for it!

they got a number of ways to make Mexico pay for the wall

 

[MAKAVELI]

they got a number of ways to make Mexico pay for the wall

They'll just increase drug prices to offset it.

 

[It will be fine]

I think truncate will be more affordable with better service

Unless you get sick, lose your job which causes a lapse in insurance coverage and the protections for preexisting conditions are removed. Then you die.

 

[Jkloc420]

Unless you get sick, lose your job which causes a lapse in insurance coverage and the protections for preexisting conditions are removed. Then you die.

we're see

 

[oldngray]

If you have a lapse you can get re insured. You just have to pay a penalty.

Good idea because it discourages people from waiting until they are sick to get insurance.

 

[Jones]

If you have a lapse you can get re insured. You just have to pay a penalty.

Good idea because it discourages people from waiting until they are sick to get insurance.

Kinda like the individual mandate.

 

[oldngray]

Kinda like the individual mandate.

Not at all. Quite the opposite.

A choice. Not a mandate.

 

[MAKAVELI]

I'm curious. What does " better service " mean ? And how that will be achieved with Drumpfcare?

 

[Jkloc420]

I'm curious. What does " better service " mean ? And how that will be achieved with Drumpfcare?

the kind you can use

 

[Jones]

Not at all. Quite the opposite.

A choice. Not a mandate.

The mandate penalized people for not having insurance in order to discourage them from waiting until they were sick to get insurance, but they still had a choice. That's exactly what this penalty does and for the same reason. The only difference is that you paid the penalty up front instead of after the fact but the choice is still the same: Get insurance or pay a penalty.

 

[oldngray]

The mandate penalized people for not having insurance in order to discourage them from waiting until they were sick to get insurance, but they still had a choice. That's exactly what this penalty does and for the same reason. The only difference is that you paid the penalty up front instead of after the fact but the choice is still the same: Get insurance or pay a penalty.

The mandate forced people to get insurance or pay a tax.

Choosing to go without insurance and not paying anything until you decide you do want insurance is different.

 

[MAKAVELI]

the kind you can use

 

[Jkloc420]

Obama care failed 2 pac

 

[MAKAVELI]

Obama care failed 2 pac

How did it fail Megatron?

 

[Jones]

The mandate forced people to get insurance or pay a tax.

Choosing to go without insurance and not paying anything until you decide you do want insurance is different.

Everyone will need insurance at some point so no, it's not different. It's an acknowledgement of the reality that if you are going to force insurance companies to accept people with preexisting conditions then you have to have a mechanism that will force the majority of people to maintain insurance or everyone will just start gaming the system. Under the mandate you paid the penalty when you chose not carry insurance, under this new system you pay the penalty when you choose to get insurance, but under either system those who choose to forgo getting insurance until they get sick will pay a penalty.

 

[oldngray]

Everyone will need insurance at some point so no, it's not different. It's an acknowledgement of the reality that if you are going to force insurance companies to accept people with preexisting conditions then you have to have a mechanism that will force the majority of people to maintain insurance or everyone will just start gaming the system. Under the mandate you paid the penalty when you chose not carry insurance, under this new system you pay the penalty when you choose to get insurance, but under either system those who choose to forgo getting insurance until they get sick will pay a penalty.

The difference is having a choice.

 

[It will be fine]

The difference is having a choice.

The difference is the removal of protections against pre-existing conditions. In Republicare insurers can charge whatever they want for someone that is sick. $150,000 in annual premiums if you have cancer? Doesn't sound like a choice to me. So say you get cancer and loose your job. You can't afford premiums because you have no job so your coverage lapses. Then some miracle happens and you recover. Now if you want insurance again, sorry it's still gonna be $150k/year. That is the freedom of choice the republicans are offering.

 

[oldngray]

The difference is the removal of protections against pre-existing conditions. In Republicare insurers can charge whatever they want for someone that is sick. $150,000 in annual premiums if you have cancer? Doesn't sound like a choice to me. So say you get cancer and loose your job. You can't afford premiums because you have no job so your coverage lapses. Then some miracle happens and you recover. Now if you want insurance again, sorry it's still gonna be $150k/year. That is the freedom of choice the republicans are offering.

hypothetical sob story

 

[MAKAVELI]

hypothetical sob story

1500 people die of cancer every day in America. Nothing hypothetical about that and definitely not a sob story.

 

[It will be fine]

hypothetical sob story

It's a happy story. My guy recovers from cancer. He just gets screwed by republicans that think $150k/year premiums are ok.