I think that we need to recognize that there are many UPSers that have come from other industries and didn't start by washing package cars in the snow barefoot uphill both ways. These are very intelligent people who contribute to the success of the company because of the skills they have that the typical UPSer doesn't. They came because of a good deal and part of that deal was MIP. Mess with MIP too much and these folks will walk. Reality is that loyalty is rented to the highest bidder in the business world.