Rudy Can't Fail

bacha29

Well-Known Member
If the FBI just "took his word for it", what would they do if RG told them all electronic devices were related to HB's business? Would they have left empty handed on his word alone?
Chances are somebody would have arrived soon afterward with another warrant based on a receipt of stolen property charge. Once again Giuliani admitted that it was Hunter Biden's property. He's not longer a federally commissioned law enforcement official. He's now just another private citizen and for the time being in the possession of a law license.
 

vantexan

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You're not answering the questions. Did the Hunter Biden's hard drive fall within the parameters set forth and the language described in the warrant? How did Rudy Giuliani obtain the hard drive he claims to be the property of Hunter Biden? What's it doing in his possession? He's no longer a commissioned law enforcement official.
Rudy said the warrant required they take all electronic devices in that residence. Beyond that how would I, or you, know what was in the warrant? Rudy said that on national tv so there's clear evidence of something that could be used in court against him if not true. And it's already known how he obtained it. The owner of the computer repair shop where Biden dropped off his laptop took ownership of the laptop for failure to return and pay for repairs. He then viewed the contents, got worried about what he was seeing, contacted some people, and eventually the FBI took ownership of the laptop but copies of the hard drive made their way to the New York Post and Giuliani before that.
 

It will be fine

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Rudy said the warrant required they take all electronic devices in that residence. Beyond that how would I, or you, know what was in the warrant? Rudy said that on national tv so there's clear evidence of something that could be used in court against him if not true. And it's already known how he obtained it. The owner of the computer repair shop where Biden dropped off his laptop took ownership of the laptop for failure to return and pay for repairs. He then viewed the contents, got worried about what he was seeing, contacted some people, and eventually the FBI took ownership of the laptop but copies of the hard drive made their way to the New York Post and Giuliani before that.
Well if Rudy said it on Fox it must be true.
 

bacha29

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Right. so the question is did Giuliani illegally obtain the Biden hard drive. The people who the FBI investigation is currently focused on in addition to Giuliani are Parnas, Fruman, Lutskenko Poroshenko and Toensing. Hunter Biden is not a named target of the investigation nor a named person of interest. Now can you directly tie Hunter Biden to this particular investigation through any other means than just another right wing conspiracy theory?
 

DriveInDriѵeOut

Inordinately Right
You're not answering the questions. Did the Hunter Biden's hard drive fall within the parameters set forth and the language described in the warrant?
Are you on drugs?
I asked you that question multiple times and you continue to dodge it:
According to Rudy the search warrant was for all electronic devices. Do you have any information that disputes that?
According to Rudy the search warrant was for all electronic devices. Do you have any information that disputes that?

I imagine you would have posted it already if you did.
According to Rudy the search warrant was for all electronic devices. Do you have any information that disputes that?

If they had a warrant for drugs, and Rudy had a pound of cocaine that he claimed belonged to hunter biden, they wouldn't have taken it?

You're being ridiculous lady.
 

DriveInDriѵeOut

Inordinately Right
Well if Rudy said it on Fox it must be true.
This just be fake news too.
Do you ever get tired of the trash media you watch lying to you?

 

MAKAVELI

Well-Known Member
How old is Rudy now? And he's running circles around much younger guys. The Biden administration is seeking to destroy Trump's circle because they exposed Biden and son's corruption. Interesting version of democracy y'all have got going there.
It's called Karma. Drumpf and all his cronies will have to pay the piper at some point.
 

bacha29

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Are you on drugs?
I asked you that question multiple times and you continue to dodge it:
Are you on drugs? Warrants must be narrowly defined , specifically focused and targeted along with proven just cause if they have any hope to gain court approval. Giuliani could have handed the FBI the hard drive that contained the missing minutes of the Watergate tapes and it wouldn't have made any difference because it would not have been targeted by the warrant just as Hunter Biden is not being targeted by this specific investigation.
Now Rudy Giuliani is 77 years old but still shrewd enough to at least attempt to foil the investigation anyway he can by trying to induce the FBI into taking nontargeted evidence and go running to Fox "News" try to line up it's unsuspecting audience in his favor.

Unfortunately for poor old Rudy he was dealing with the top professionals in the business who are his equal and a whole lot more.
 

vantexan

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Are you on drugs? Warrants must be narrowly defined , specifically focused and targeted along with proven just cause if they have any hope to gain court approval. Giuliani could have handed the FBI the hard drive that contained the missing minutes of the Watergate tapes and it wouldn't have made any difference because it would not have been targeted by the warrant just as Hunter Biden is not being targeted by this specific investigation.
Now Rudy Giuliani is 77 years old but still shrewd enough to at least attempt to foil the investigation anyway he can by trying to induce the FBI into taking nontargeted evidence and go running to Fox "News" try to line up it's unsuspecting audience in his favor.

Unfortunately for poor old Rudy he was dealing with the top professionals in the business who are his equal and a whole lot more.
And do you know what was in the warrant beyond what Rudy said?
 

bacha29

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And do you know what was in the warrant beyond what Rudy said?
It sure as hell didn't include Hunter Biden. The people targeted were named in the warrant and publicly disclosed. Don't you get what he was trying to do? He was trying to find a way to get the warrant tossed based on the claim of an illegal search and seizure .He would have gone right back to the judge who signed off on the warrant and cried foul.

Right from the bag of RG's little tricks. You'll just have to wait and see if it works.
 

bacha29

Well-Known Member
According to Rudy the search warrant was for all electronic devices. Do you have any information that disputes that?
All electronic devices that were pertinent to the investigation and those individuals named in the investigation and Biden is not one of them. RG claims that he told the warrant servers that it was the property of Hunter Biden. Now since Biden was not a named suspect in the investigation what reason would the servers have had to take property belonging to a person who is not a named suspect?
 

DriveInDriѵeOut

Inordinately Right
Now since Biden was not a named suspect in the investigation what reason would the servers have had to take property belonging to a person who is not a named suspect.
According to Rudy the search warrant was for all electronic devices. Do you have any information that disputes that?
 

bacha29

Well-Known Member
According to Rudy the search warrant was for all electronic devices. Do you have any information that disputes that?
ALL electronic devices? Did they take his car? His TV? His stereo ? His microwave? His penis inflator? Well, maybe not given all the trouble Rockefeller had with his. There's almost nothing in the average person's house today that doesn't have electronic components in them making them an electronic device in one form or another.

Most important of all. Hunter Biden is said to be a target of a separate federal investigation. The key point here is SEPARATE. Whatever property of Hunter Biden Giuliani claims to have in his possession before it could be used in any prosecution of Biden Giuliani would first have to be prove that he obtained it legally.

In the meantime the best assistance you cluckers and holy rollers can provide to help your political heroes would be to take your "whataboutisms and put them in the drawer until we see how this thing turns out.
 
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