Keep your eyes on small very unstable but strategically important Moldova. As for Ukraine. it's a country nearly the size of Texas, flat as Kansas 45 million people, 7-10 hours ahead of the US and has a high water table and when the frost goes out it could get pretty soft and muddy for heavy armaments. So if he's going to do it he needs to go now or wait until summer when everything dries up enough.
Russia Claims Ukraine Standoff Is Over
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i do actually.
capitalists lie too. advertising by definition is a lie. it never delivers what it promises.
capitalism turns politicians into liars
fishtm2001
Well-Known Member
The increasingly complicated Russia-Ukraine crisis, explained
How the world got here, what Russia wants, and more questions, answered.
www.vox.com
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
We wouldn't be in this situation if it weren't for Joe Biden. Total failure of an administration.
you had increasing russian tensions under trump
meet the new boss same as the old boss
TearsInRain
IE boogeyman
This is simply not true
Who the sitting US president happens to be is totally irrelevant to what Putin does in Ukraine, Crimea, Georgia, or Moldova
No US president is going to start a nuclear war over these countries, Russia has a LOT to gain in taking territories that pipelines run through so they don't have to pay transit fees
Putin knows those to be facts and will continue to push as hard as he can get away with, in the interest of Russia
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
A pipeline is exactly the reason why I said we wouldn't be in this situation if not for Joe Biden.
TearsInRain
IE boogeyman
Power turns politicians into liars; communist politicians lied far more and greater than capitalist ones
You just don't get it's about human nature, not whatever chincy you economic system we're using
capitalism seeks to undo whatever democracy seeks to accomplish by money which is power
george lucas not a huge believer in capitalist democracy, nor are many on the left
you dont understand the difference between democracy and centralized power
TearsInRain
IE boogeyman
Not that pipeline....
There are lines that run through southern Ukraine that happen to perfectly match up with likely Russian moves
Planned future lines through Poland, combined with ownership of those southern Ukrainian lines would enrich Russia for a generation and completely defang Ukraine basically forever
TearsInRain
IE boogeyman
I got a new flash for you:
Human nature will corrupt any system you can ever come up with
and yet we choose certain systems which are more democratic over others
and i would argue most ppl dont understand the democracy or power concentration of the economy
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
Nord stream 2 is absolutely a factor. Biden was warned Russian aggression would follow if he allowed it to go through without sanctions.
That's exactly what happened, and the first thing Germany did was get on it's knees for Russia, exactly as predicted.
Europe is now deciding whether to go with china or go with america
us empire coming to a close
TearsInRain
IE boogeyman
Germany wants to be beholden to Russia, there's nothing we can do to stop it; Germany and Russia as allies isnt a new idea, it's in both their strategic interests going back centuries (minus the last one which was an abberation)
Next we just need a resurgent Hungary and a good old partitioning of Poland and time can be a flat circle again
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
Geeeeezussss, I admire your calm acceptance of such a bleak vision of the future, fren.
Listen, I don't want America to play a leading role in this conflict. In fact I believe Democrats are the real war hawks and are hoping for escalation.
But let's not pretend the fact that Biden exudes weakness didn't play a big role here. Him being a little bitch about Nord stream 2 is a part of that.
yes republicans have done an excellent job drawing down NATO over the year :S
Lineandinitial
Legio patria nostra
You completely miss the point and go off on a “US President starting a nuclear war” tangent.
I’ll break it down simply:
The weaklings get taken advantage of more than the strong ones.
You can Google all kinds of things and paraphrase them here, but Biden is too weak to be in the position he’s in. He’s worse than Carter and Clinton combined.
TearsInRain
IE boogeyman
at no point did i go on a "us president starting a nuclear war" tangent
all US presidents are weaklings here because they have NOTHING in their arsenal; we've pushed sanctions as far as they'll go, over dumb stuff, and won't use military force so what's left
TearsInRain
IE boogeyman
i just don't care about Russia at all, and i'm not afraid of them since:
A. they don't have an Internationalist agenda anymore
B. they just don't have the power or money to project outside Eastern Europe
China worries me because:
A. they have an Internationalist agenda
B. they spend huge sums of money subverting our political system
C. they currently DO have the money, just not the power, to project outside of Asia; but that can change
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