Coldworld
60 months and counting
Get the horns out everybody.....lets toot it up, 100% trace compliance over here y'all!!!!
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Coldworld
60 months and counting
This system is too advanced for the local mgt who mess with it everyday....my Onroad and I could look at a map and bust out a trace that = Orion or is better in a couple of hours....fact. Wall Street loves "technology" and that's why this system went into place... Imo some of the gains were made because some of the routes were jumping over other routes which made an immediate loss of miles... Something the center team could have done themselves if they got off their ass...another dog and pony show.
Coldworld
60 months and counting
Stop trying to think logically... You are screwing the whole system up...could have a total system failure meltdown!!
TearsInRain
IE boogeyman
ORION doesn't work the way you think it does
tourists24
Well-Known Member
Then please explain it. UPS doesn't explain it to drivers. Drivers are simply told to comply and then somehow use it as a tool to our advantage
TearsInRain
IE boogeyman
ORION is like google maps, all it does it optimize your miles based on the parameters the PDS sets
if you tell it there's a road across a lake, it's gonna trust you, if you say the road isn't there, okay to that too
you want the driver to make certain pickups at certain times? okay set the times correctly; how important is it that a driver get X area off earlier or later? set the parameters; traffic is heavy after 5pm on the main drag? you can make it adjust for that as well, etc etc etc.
ORION is complex because of the nearly infinite variables that we can set whenever however, but at it's core it's a dead-simple miles optimizer; so honestly when drivers say ORION is trash or they know better it just shows how brain dead that driver is to how things really work
to;dr is if your ORION is trash, it's because your PDS is trash
UnconTROLLed
perfection
if you really want answers as to how ORION operates, you won't find any answers from low-level IE weenies. The above response confirms that.
TearsInRain
IE boogeyman
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
In case you couldn't tell from your cubicle, it doesn't work the way you think it does either.
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
That's the beauty of their job. They get to blame everyone else.
dookie stain
Cornfed whiteboy
This past Saturday was our buildings first Saturday and oh my god did it fail hahahahahhahahahahaha...I am still Monday through Friday for now...but they were sending guys out with 250 stops covering 6-8 routes worth of resi...and every driver brought stops back at 1030pm....and today we didn't leave the building til 950 with an 830 start time because they sent a bunch of loaders home because today was going to be "light" due to all the volume that got delivered Saturday...what an absolute embarrassment.
TearsInRain
IE boogeyman
please enlighten me with another example of how inflexible and unfix-able it is
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
please enlighten me with another example of how inflexible and unfix-able it is
542thruNthru
Well-Known Member
please enlighten me with another example of how inflexible and unfix-able it is
You keep saying Orion is great but not if you have a crap PDS. Well a tool is only as good as the person using it. So Orion is crap. Everything you say it can do its not doing because... wait for it..... the person implementing it is crap. So again ORION is crap!
TearsInRain
IE boogeyman
LMAO
that's not what that saying means dude; here let me explain for you:
if you have a well built shovel, and the guy wielding it tries to dig with the handle, that doesn't mean the shovel is a bad tool, it means the operator is a
ing in the UPS world, the shovel is ORION, the guy is either the driver or the PDS
simple isn't it?
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
Except an Orion shovel is made out of paper that wouldn't penetrate a wet cow TurdLMAO
that's not what that saying means dude; here let me explain for you:
if you have a well built shovel, and the guy wielding it tries to dig with the handle, that doesn't mean the shovel is a bad tool, it means the operator is a
in the UPS world, the shovel is ORION, the guy is either the driver or the PDS
simple isn't it?
oldngray
nowhere special
LMAO
that's not what that saying means dude; here let me explain for you:
if you have a well built shovel, and the guy wielding it tries to dig with the handle, that doesn't mean the shovel is a bad tool, it means the operator is a
in the UPS world, the shovel is ORION, the guy is either the driver or the PDS
simple isn't it?
So you are saying ORION works in a perfect world.
The real world isn't perfect.
simple isn't it?
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
It must really suck to have to go work everyday knowing what you're working on is a failure, and there's nothing you can do to fix it. I'd probably try to find excuses too if I were you.LMAO
that's not what that saying means dude; here let me explain for you:
if you have a well built shovel, and the guy wielding it tries to dig with the handle, that doesn't mean the shovel is a bad tool, it means the operator is a
in the UPS world, the shovel is ORION, the guy is either the driver or the PDS
simple isn't it?
Johney
Well-Known Member
I'm thinking more.......YAWN.
Johney
Well-Known Member
So what you're saying is if the dispatcher is not going to fix it then no one is? If that's the case then what? Failure?LMAO
that's not what that saying means dude; here let me explain for you:
if you have a well built shovel, and the guy wielding it tries to dig with the handle, that doesn't mean the shovel is a bad tool, it means the operator is a
in the UPS world, the shovel is ORION, the guy is either the driver or the PDS
simple isn't it?
