Saturday Layoffs

[reginald95]

Gee and here I worked 14 hrs this past weekend. Try to live in a big city and you'll see how much work we really have.

 

[Brownslave688]

Everybody acts like Amazon is our only customer and it blows my mind.

Well management acts like it to so....

 

[542thruNthru]

Gee and here I worked 14 hrs this past weekend. Try to live in a big city and you'll see how much work we really have.

What's a big city?

 

[Over disciplined0123]

Had two full timers get told they were being laid off their Saturday routes for lack of work. Only three months on with Saturday ground and we're already hemorrhaging money. Our center lost Amazon, why are we even bothering with Saturday ground now? We only did it for them.

Well don’t they cut half the routes on Monday in your Center because they use mondays work to fill the void on saturdays.

 

[Brownslave688]

It sucks to be at the bottom. I know that's not what you want to hear, but the market wants delivery 6 days a week. And we have to provide it to remain competitive.

Good lord straight from the management handbook?

 

[FrigidFTSup]

Well management acts like it to so....

I'm not going to lie, when we lost them back in May, it hurt. We took routes out that I couldn't remember ever cutting. But everybody overreacts about it

 

[FrigidFTSup]

Good lord straight from the management handbook?

Is the idea wrong though?

 

[MyTripisCut]

No actually they did it for Macy's, L.L Bean, Walmart, Target, QVC, Home Shopping Network and every other shipper that wants their packages to their customers quicker.

It sucks to be at the bottom. I know that's not what you want to hear, but the market wants delivery 6 days a week. And we have to provide it to remain competitive.

Fake news. We've had Saturday ground here for a year. Was supposed to add jobs, only seems to have overworked everyone. Just an excuse to run half a preload on Mondays. And Saturday is laughable. 200 plus stops for 10 guys covering 52 routes worth of area. Can't get it all done, bring stops back at nine o'clock at night. Preloaders loading six package cars. All lies. In my opinion, we just sank to the level of competition that we blew away for 100 years plus. Joke.

 

[Turdferguson]

Fake news. We've had Saturday ground here for a year. Was supposed to add jobs, only seems to have overworked everyone. Just an excuse to run half a preload on Mondays. And Saturday is laughable. 200 plus stops for 10 guys covering 52 routes worth of area. Can't get it all done, bring stops back at nine o'clock at night. Preloaders loading six package cars. All lies. In my opinion, we just sank to the level of competition that we blew away for 100 years plus. Joke.

Your center just sucks

 

[MyTripisCut]

Your center just sucks

Truth.

 

[DOK]

Everybody acts like Amazon is our only customer and it blows my mind.

How much percentage of our volume is Amazon or Amazon related do you estimate? I'm guessing 30% of our packages.

 

[FrigidFTSup]

How much percentage of our volume is Amazon or Amazon related do you estimate? I'm guessing 30% of our packages.

I believe it is 13% system wide

 

[MyTripisCut]

I believe it is 13% system wide

Including call tags? Lies......

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

I believe it is 13% system wide

I just don't understand why UPS doesn't make some deals with some other shippers. Get some low profit, not time sensitive delivered and have them delivered on Mondays ad Fridays.
You got the equipment and workforce and you ate already paying the benefits , even if I'm working 5 ot five days.


Keep a balanced workforce and we could probably handle peak a little better

 

[JackStraw]

I believe it is 13% system wide

That's quite a hefty chunk

 

[JL 0513]

Had two full timers get told they were being laid off their Saturday routes for lack of work. Only three months on with Saturday ground and we're already hemorrhaging money. Our center lost Amazon, why are we even bothering with Saturday ground now? We only did it for them.

This whole 6th day thing is going to lower UPS's profits. They've enjoyed by far the biggest profits in the industry now it will bring us down closer to FedEx. That's why while losing billions a year, the Post Master General proposed dropping Saturday delivery as that is where a lot of the losses come from. The business was built for Monday through Friday and adding Saturday is just throwing a huge wrench into the system.

 

[Staydryitsraining]

I think I was motley fool said Amazon is less that 4% of our total volume. Not sure how accurate that is.

Out of high 50 billion a year, they only attribute 1 billion in profit. This is exactly what happen and I haven't seen anyone say it. The company didn't hire for a while after the recession. They let the volume build for years, and finally at the height of Amazon we started hiring all over the country. Well Amazon started leaving now we have to adjust.

 

[Staydryitsraining]

This whole 6th day thing is going to lower UPS's profits. They've enjoyed by far the biggest profits in the industry now it will bring us down closer to FedEx. That's why while losing billions a year, the Post Master General proposed dropping Saturday delivery as that is where a lot of the losses come from. The business was built for Monday through Friday and adding Saturday is just throwing a huge wrench into the system.

You can never compare us to FedEx. If fed ex did for their employees like ups does, they would make about half the money we do. It wouldn't even be close.

 

[JL 0513]

You can never compare us to FedEx. If fed ex did for their employees like ups does, they would make about half the money we do. It wouldn't even be close.

FedEx's profits are about 1/3rd that of UPS.

 

[Staydryitsraining]

It sucks to be at the bottom. I know that's not what you want to hear, but the market wants delivery 6 days a week. And we have to provide it to remain competitive.

Things change and its funny, ironic. Once upon a time every family in the country wanted a house phone, now it's rarely used.