I am currently an air driver, and have only been doing it for about 6 months mainly every Saturday. My current pay rate is $13.50 for air, and 11.50 for preload. I'll be qualifying in May for a permanent driver position which is unrelated. Occasionally we'll have issues with drivers not showing up or have unforeseen volume increases which in turn causes management to add small routes. This has happened to me twice recently where I would go deliver a normal route that I'm familiar with(all ground) but still get paid my air rate. Is this normal to receive the same rate whatever you're delivering whether it be a full 8 hour route, or abbreviated route as an air driver?
Should I get normal pay for driving air or more for ground?
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UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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You should receive top rate for delivering a ground route.
Grievance.
Grievance.
PT Car Washer
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Anytime an air driver performs ground work he should be paid at top driver rate. Read up on Art 40 in the master agreement. It is a penalty pay to prevent management from abusing air drivers. You shouldn't even have to file, they should just pay you automatically.
I agree with you in this one.
Like you said, gotta choose your battles. If he intended to stay an air driver, that would be one thing. But coming up on a FT opportunity...In his shoes, I'd keep my mouth shut. At least he's getting first-hand experience delivering some ground before qualifying. He'll be better prepared than anyone else, probably.
He will get his turn to make that money back later on.
They're screwing him, but at the same time they're giving him a huge advantage.
They screw everybody they can. Lol
They usually know better than to mess with my hours or pay though. I watch my time like a hawk.
I keep a notebook myself.
Thanks for the info, can you post a link to the Master Agreement? Did a quick search but didn't come up with it.
He's an exception air driver with preload as the main job. Shouldn't be delivering ground at all outside of TCD season. Which is June 1-January 15 where I am.
But yeah, you should be getting more than air rate.
When you say you'll be qualifying for a permanent position in May, does that mean you've already won a bid? Or are you just being told that?
I have a folder of notes that I take in and write my times down on. Time I punched in, actual start time, time I clocked out, time of break, etc.. I have a spreadsheet with all of my hours, how much I should've made, with taxes pre-calculated already. I print out the timecard on UPSers every week as well.
They're not gonna rob me of the money I EARNED.
Everybody should do that.
We don't even have TCDs here. All of our ground drivers are full-time or seasonal (as in, hired off the street seasonal, not hired from inside seasonal).
There are a lot of people here who, unfortunately, learned the hard way to keep notes and make copies of their loose timecards (double shifting) before turning them in.
They seem to be handling things with more integrity now, but the trust is gone.
FrigidFTSup
Resident Suit
They've been doing timecard audits like I've never seen the last few months.
Unfortunately it's the people that make the least they get screwed the most
FrigidFTSup
Resident Suit
The bigger focus lately hasn't necessarily been on changing times. From my understanding, the timecard viewer has put some fear in the guys who shave minutes from employees (though obviously not all). They're looking for guys using codes they aren't supposed to. So using safety or shuttle time to reduce overallowed.
