Coldworld
60 months and counting
Don't even think of moving in with me and @Brownies...mmm down into the strike bunker... not happening !!!
So it begins
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oldngray
nowhere special
Similar to how they changed the rules on IRA's because so much money was being saved and the government wanted to get their cut of that huge chunk of change.
It was created to encourage retirement savings and was working too well.
They want our money. Mason jar time?
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
Would still be suicide for the 401k plan
Coldworld
60 months and counting
Yep only on the hook for their own bitch drivers....
Coldworld
60 months and counting
There was a contract proposal suggesting drivers could automatically bring stops back without mgt approval if you had too many and on the 9.5 list....guess Hoffa cut that out of the wish list...if done the right way this would have been some beneficial language....
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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....unless you were one of the customers still waiting to have their package(s) delivered...
I believe the Central Region has this language in their supplement.
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Nobody?
It's hard to get re-elected doing that don't you know.
Lying (ignorantly or not) about other posters is not an opinion. For years on Brown Cafe you have called strong teamsters that support members rights "Joe Union" and claimed they "hide behind the contract" and now you want us to believe you're a Joe Union type and not the company advocate.
It's a little bit late to try to redeem yourself now that you're on the verge of retirement and want to appear loyal to union activity.
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You talk ALOT of trash about things you don't know anything about.
In the Central Region that (JAC decision) has to do with 8 he requests and is not in the cba "language" pertaining to 9.5s.
Go fish.
Too many orphans is what I meant to say.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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There have been numerous posts on this forum about drivers with 8 hour requests in the central being allowed to bring back undelivered stops without retribution.
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
No the central can bring back stops for an 8 hour. Not 9.5.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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BigUnionGuy
Got the T-Shirt
There is a Central Region JAC contractual interpretation allowing stops to be
brought back on an 8-hour request, as long as the driver gives "a normal days
performance". Meaning.... you can't go out and lay down, then bring back work.
Drivers should make every attempt, to allow the company the opportunity to
fix the problem before bringing back stops. It doesn't happen that often.
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twoweeled
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I was most definitely kidding. Big changes at UPS are rarely (if ever) advantages to us.
twoweeled
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As I recall, that option was never given to us. We knew it was out there, but the Union never made that offer to us. I guess it didn't work with the Union's plan? That's the way it's been for awhile. Sadly, It's possible we'd do better negotiating with the company alone. ie.
1. Negotiating with UPS, the company has to get something that benefits them also.
2. Negotiating with UPS through the Union, both the Union and UPS have to make sure "they both" get something out it.
We have two entities to please, instead of just one. Sad, but we're in a tough position here brothers! I think most of you see, Hoffa is just kicking that pension problem down the road for someone else to deal with. US!!!
BigUnionGuy
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Gimme Danger
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Management and non-union workers 'negotiate' with the Company alone. Good luck with that. I'll take my union negotiations every day of the week (good, bad or indifferent).
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