So What If...

[Babagounj]

When can I expect a robot who does nothing but sits around all day watching tv and posting to internet chat rooms to arrive ?

 

[El Correcto]

Being a pro-capitalism fellow does this kind of discussion bother you? I'm pro-capitalism to a point, but let's be honest, capitalism is exploitive. And a lot of capitalists don't buy into Christianity. It's them and their family first, always. The richer the better even if it causes others to struggle. But this requires us to admit something is wrong with the system and we're either going to have to do some socialist things or have people living like vermin. By the millions. Look at favelas in Brazil for examples.

Well then why don’t all those out of work people start praying to Jesus to come down and save them. Smh...

 

[Old Man Jingles]

...automation does displace 50 million or more workers by 2030? What do those people do to survive? Do we give a universal income to everyone? To just those displaced? To no one at all? What becomes of Social Security? I'm curious as to what you think will happen or should happen. Please, keep the opposite party hatred out of it. This is an issue that will affect all of us. What do you believe will happen? Will it happen at all?

I feel that there will have to be an annual robot tax or something like that.

 

[vantexan]

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Well then why don’t all those out of work people start praying to Jesus to come down and save them. Smh...

If it works, great. But in the meantime are you saying there's no problem coming, it'll all work out fine?

 

[vantexan]

When can I expect a robot who does nothing but sits around all day watching tv and posting to internet chat rooms to arrive ?

Gosh, I hope not, that would replace me!

 

[El Correcto]

If it works, great. But in the meantime are you saying there's no problem coming, it'll all work out fine?

I would say it works too well and people have become soft. They don’t even recognize the level of wealth they live at even being in poverty in 21st century America. Our problem isn’t poor people of dying from hunger, our problem is poor people becoming lard asses and driving up the health insurance costs subsidizing their medications for being fat and sick.

 

[vantexan]

I would say it works too well and people have become soft. They don’t even recognize the level of wealth they live at even being in poverty in 21st century America. Our problem isn’t poor people of dying from hunger, our problem is poor people becoming lard asses and driving up the health insurance costs subsidizing their medications for being fat and sick.

And that's on topic how? Sounds to me that you don't care if these things happen to tens of millions of people because you'll be untouched by it.

 

[vantexan]

I would say it works too well and people have become soft. They don’t even recognize the level of wealth they live at even being in poverty in 21st century America. Our problem isn’t poor people of dying from hunger, our problem is poor people becoming lard asses and driving up the health insurance costs subsidizing their medications for being fat and sick.

And middle class and wealthy people are obese with health issues too.

 

[El Correcto]

And that's on topic how? Sounds to me that you don't care if these things happen to tens of millions of people because you'll be untouched by it.

TTKU they are predicting trucking automation will put most these men in the poor house.

 

[vantexan]

TTKU they are predicting trucking automation will put most these men in the poor house.

Actually it's across the board including white collar jobs. Concerning trucking I can see separated lanes from normal traffic with sensors and computers directing big rigs where to go. Show up at a warehouse and a local backs it into a dock space. They'll work out bugs on things.

 

[rickyb]

...automation does displace 50 million or more workers by 2030? What do those people do to survive? Do we give a universal income to everyone? To just those displaced? To no one at all? What becomes of Social Security? I'm curious as to what you think will happen or should happen. Please, keep the opposite party hatred out of it. This is an issue that will affect all of us. What do you believe will happen? Will it happen at all?

yea automation is a big threat and has already gotten rid of alot of jobs.

if nothing changes its predicted the middle class will die and most everyone will be poor, similiar to orwells 1984 where 80%+ of the population was in dire circumstances.

im not sure the system can sustain itself with this model, but it possibly can. what it cant sustain is the ecological destruction.

 

[rickyb]

That's a major concern as the new technology will create some jobs but the point is to eliminate as many jobs as possible. So if everyone is trained to fix a widget and yet only so many widget fixers needed. When I was in the Air Force the office I worked in had 4 airmen and computers. Before computers that office had 30 airmen working in it. I'm sure many have seen parks in cities with bandstands. In the early 1900's towns of any size had paid musicians playing evenings at those bandstands. Record players came along and people found they could stay home and listen to the world's best musicians. Put many thousands of musicians out of work. What's being talked about in the near future though is on an unprecedented scale. And without the contributions of all those workers what happens to Social Security?

on the railway i think it was 5 guys to a train, now its 2.

 

[Babagounj]

2 guys alone on a train sound romantic.

 

[rickyb]

Every time I hear about people trying to hold back innovation I think about Ayn Rand’s Anthem. A dystopian collectivist society that still uses candles because light bulbs would put people out of work.

she was right about the dystopian part.

we are headed towards a china type dictatorship

 

[rickyb]

2 guys alone on a train sound romantic.

not when the alerter is going off every few seconds and youve had no sleep.

 

[rickyb]

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Well then why don’t all those out of work people start praying to Jesus to come down and save them. Smh...

praying is pretty similar to obamas hope: it doesnt translate into action usually.

 

[rickyb]

I would say it works too well and people have become soft. They don’t even recognize the level of wealth they live at even being in poverty in 21st century America. Our problem isn’t poor people of dying from hunger, our problem is poor people becoming lard asses and driving up the health insurance costs subsidizing their medications for being fat and sick.

its well known you dont take care of sick people.

 

[rickyb]

I mean yeah, certainly plausible. Corporations not wanting to pay rent for office space. Employees work remotely from home. Others just click bait all day on paid advertisement websites. Or create content. Receive universal income. End up spending it at Amazon.

people wont have disposable income.

 

[burrheadd]

she was right about the dystopian part.

we are headed towards a china type dictatorship

 

[Babagounj]

she was right about the dystopian part.

we are headed towards a china type dictatorship

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