Steps To Becoming A Full Time Supervisor

[Overpaid Union Thug]

service is part of the numbers we chase. I realize that your perspective of good service will differ from the sups. You have to understand that we have the advantage of not knowing your customers and what they need.

That is so true. It only makes since that the bean counters don't know what our customers expect. Why else would they dispatch our routes so that we are delivering to commercial stops at 4:30 or later. I honestly think that some sups just don't care. As long as some of the drivers are willing to skip around through their loads to avoid having missed commercial stops then that makes it easier for them to worry about their numbers only and not service.

 

[soberups]

In the old days, the company paid for the mandatory lobotomy on new sups. Now, the cost is split between the company and the management wannabe.

 

[705red]

service is part of the numbers we chase. I realize that your perspective of good service will differ from the sups. You have to understand that we have the advantage of not knowing your customers and what they need.

Service has been removed from our title along time ago! Now it is all about numbers! I had a talk with an IE guy 2 nights ago because he said that 60% of one of my stops go through the small sort.

He wanted to know why I did not take smalls allowance. I explained to him that yes there are some smaller boxes, 8x8x8 but they weight 5 to 10 pounds a piece.

He wants me to bag them?! I asked him if I bagged 7, 10 lbers how should I take credit for it since the smallest allowance we have is 9010? And then I would have to take credit for each bag as an over 70. Sort of defeats the purpose.

I then went on to explain that this is my last stop and i have to pack it high and tight and bags would only hinder my stacking. What happened to the days of just delivering the packages and picking them up?

 

[tieguy]

In the old days, the company paid for the mandatory lobotomy on new sups. Now, the cost is split between the company and the management wannabe.

Assuming we have something to lobotomize?

 

[Mike23]

1. Write a letter of intent
2. Buy a clipboard
3. Write a bunch of numbers on it
4. Walk around to all the union employees and start saying, 'You're over your allowed time! If it happens again you're fired!'

Once you start acting like a sup I think they'll just push you to the top so that you can cancel all your life plans from now until you die. If you're not a sup now then get into full time driving, at least there you aren't FORCED to transfer and donate if you don't want to.

 

[Ptrunner]

I find that statement rather silly. The majority of supervisors were hard working union employees who wanted to better themselves and their company.
And just because you get written up for missing work because your child or mother was sick does not mean they are soul less. It just means they are trying to protect their business.

I disagree with your statement there and find it silly. I think our main difference could be on shifts we work on, and area of country. I work on the midnight and the supervisors there are different from you supervisors. We have a few over 30s who will never make it full time but stay as part-time. We have a majority younger supervisors in their late 20s who wanted to be supes for the extra money. And then the few who think they are gonna be full time at some point. Another difference I feel is that supervisors on the preload are usually ones who are more ambitious compared to ones on the midnight and twilight sorts. Theres just a lot more pressure in the building during the preload shift. I think thats because thats when most big wigs come in and then the driver operation begins which is the core of the business end at UPS.

Your point about missing work because of family is bogus. Theres alot more supervisors do that make them souless. I have never met a supervisor yet who was honest enough to uphold the contract that their bosses signed. I have yet to meet a supervisor who has not lied to me. That is pretty sad. But yet if an hourly is dishonest then we get fired.

 

[Brownnblue]

I find that statement rather silly. The majority of supervisors were hard working union employees who wanted to better themselves and their company. Now in most operations you have about 1 or 2 supervisors for everyone 10+ employees. Normally out of that batch of employees, you have 2 or 3 union employees who drag their feet and attempt everyday to do the bare minimum.

They're some supervisors that are indeed intent on moving up with the company by being extremely harsh or doing whatever it takes to meet numbers. However, for the most part, supervisors are employees who have expectations from both management and union employees and often are just doing their job running a business. And just because you get written up for missing work because your child or mother was sick does not mean they are soul less. It just means they are trying to protect their business.

I find this statement silly for a number of reasons, mostly for the generalities just thrown around as fact. Your ratio of 15% management potential to 25% dumb ol' lazy union slobs would certainly hold no water in my particular work group, and is probably based your biased business model that feels you need to control restroom time.
The betterment of the individual does not need to be confined to converting to management. I have done outside work and volunteerism for a number of organizations in my tenure at UPS; I feel I am better off and much more rounded as an individual for doing so.
And yes, if you get a written warning for missing work for an ill child, you are soul less. Let me give you a little personal backround here, Junior. I am an excellent driver. Sixteen years safe driving. No complaints. No follow-ups. I have been told by two on-car sups that I am the best driver in the building. (think about that) I have two children with very serious health concerns. I have spent two months of vacation time at area hospitals for SURGERIES ALONE. If I call in for an emergency I better not get some song and dance about how this is bad for business (if I have to work with something like this weighing on my mind, how productive would I really be?), just give me the time and put your contingency plan (which I am sure you have being the experienced business person you are) into motion.

Ah, feeling much better getting that off my chest.

 

[Red Dawn]

just wanted to add this little tidbit i got form ups wellness program. The average full time sup. has an average of 6 years after they retire before they die.
they also have a 90% divorce rate

 

[hangin455]

What are the steps from going to part time supervisor to full time supervisors?

What are the best methods to getting yourself promoted to Full time supervisor.

Any input from those who are there or been there appreciated.

Certainly make sure you have a 4 yr degree. If you do not there will be little opporunity for you in FT Mgmt.

 

[UnconTROLLed]

Certainly make sure you have a 4 yr degree. If you do not there will be little opporunity for you in FT Mgmt.

I do not know a FT supervisor WITH a degree in our hub. Though in a couple other centers there were a few that did infact have a college education. \
Interestingly, to become a FT supervisor at least that I have seen, generally you only need to know how to lie, cheat, steal union work, and manipulate numbers to get promoted.

 

[Brownnblue]

they also have a 90% divorce rate

Really?!?

 

[Mike23]

I do not know a FT supervisor WITH a degree in our hub. Though in a couple other centers there were a few that did infact have a college education. \
Interestingly, to become a FT supervisor at least that I have seen, generally you only need to know how to lie, cheat, steal union work, and manipulate numbers to get promoted.

They don't need a degree. They go to UPS school which is a much more prestigious school...bahahaha...ok, I almost said it without laughing.

 

[bluehdmc]

They don't need a degree. They go to UPS school which is a much more prestigious school...bahahaha...ok, I almost said it without laughing.

I thought it was called "clone school". Once they've been there you can close your eyes and listen to them and can't tell one from the other.

 

[hangin455]

I do not know a FT supervisor WITH a degree in our hub......

And they may never get an opportunity to leave your hub as a result.
If you are a PT sup without a degree and you are OK with being a FT sup for the rest of your career then plunge right ahead.

 

[UnconTROLLed]

And they may never get an opportunity to leave your hub as a result.
If you are a PT sup without a degree and you are OK with being a FT sup for the rest of your career then plunge right ahead.

Correct. I only said that because I heard that it is important to get a 4 year degree TO BECOME A FT SUP, which was the premise of this thread. That is incorrect, at least to my knowledge, 95% of FT sups have no advanced education.

 

[space cowboy]

It's important to get both your manager and division manager to support your desire to go full-time. Fortunately I had both a great manager and division manager. My division manager, along with my manager, got me promoted to a full-time specialist position in his division and when a full-time supervisor position came open in another division he pushed my name and I was promoted. It's also important to network among other departments. For example, if you work in the hub communicate with feeders on down times etc. The key is to stand out as someone that does the stuff nobody else wants to do.
Also, put your letter in and good luck with the MAPP process however I heard that process got easier. Good luck and if you have any qestions let me know because I've been through it-

 

[tieguy]

I find this statement silly for a number of reasons, mostly for the generalities just thrown around as fact. Your ratio of 15% management potential to 25% dumb ol' lazy union slobs would certainly hold no water in my particular work group, and is probably based your biased business model that feels you need to control restroom time.
.

On this thread you had to weed through many comments that were insulting to management in order to find one by a management person that offended you.

 

[rocket man]

i worked with a on road . he said hes the smartest on on the entire east coast of the united states .( no lie thats what he said) now he admitts that to everyone on unemployment line. HES SMART..