dilligaf
IN VINO VERITAS
Both of our drivers are 10 years plus. They are soooo gone they aren't even on the drivers list.
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Both of our drivers are 10 years plus. They are soooo gone they aren't even on the drivers list.
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My management team likes to leave paper work lying about on the counters in our center (I once came across an entire employees disciplinary packet). I recently came across an email to our center manager asking him to ask a driver why he was sheeting stops as having over 70s when there weren't any. It had the stop number, the number of allegded over 70s and listed the actual weight for each package in the stop.
With all this technology they can figure out every thing you do. Like the poster up there said, the numbers don't matter so why risk your job.
S
serenity now
Guest
i think i have heard every scheme, scam, and hoax there is for trying to increase your time allowance * it's all BS *
Indecisi0n
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This guy will end up on that list. It still boggles my mind the stuff these señor guys do to try and meet these ridiculous times.
S
serenity now
Guest
in today's ups, they are right there in the jump seat with you, whether you want to believe it or not
dilligaf
IN VINO VERITAS
Be that as it may, it is stupid on a drivers part to think that they won't get caught trying to cheat the system. It's only a matter of time before someone notices.
S
serenity now
Guest
that's my point * it's BS to even worry about the numbers to begin with
but, if you try to cheat the system, there are too many reports that overlay one another and soon they will have a mountain of evidence against you
gman042
Been around the block a few times
OVERBOARD
Don't believe everything you think
I posted about this a few years back. I work in a non bonus center and there was a driver fired for the same thing. Recording way to many over 70's for what reason only god knows since he is no longer a UPS employee. For what I heard back then he would take the over 70 credit if all the pkgs he had for the stop add up to over 70. crazy. I think he was warned not to do this before and thats why he didn't get his job back.
jaker
trolling
Hold on they can see all that , but they can't let us know when a 5lb box actully weighs 50lbs
Half the time I forget to enter a over 70 until I stop compete it
dilligaf
IN VINO VERITAS
Big Babooba
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I sure wish Upstate was here to comment on this thread. I miss him already.
rod
Retired 22 years
If it will make you happy I will pretend to be upstate:
"Here in the bubble of goodness we would never consider trying to cheat the company like that. If I have an over 70 I have my center manager meet me ( for some reason my Teamster buddies won't help me) and together we hold hands and work as a team to make delivery of this stop. When I return to the building I make sure my center manager didn't pull a muscle, give him a backrub and invite him to go to the movies with me."
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
rod
Retired 22 years
its tricky but I bet upstate could do it.
'Lord Brown's bidding'
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The company does not, per se, have the means to verify all the weights on every pkg. I had asked before why a notation in the board couldn't be programed alerting us that a package at a particular stop was an over-70. That was the answer I was given. Rather, they'll look for discrepancies and red flags, and then confront you on them.
As for why drivers do it, it isn't always about the money. Ironically, it is often used to boost up time on the over/under report to soften the blow of an ugly over-allowed day. While technically one cannot get fired for performance, consistently being on the report may put one on the radar of the higher ups, and they could begin scrutinizing your methods and work day, and may find some legitmate way to discipline you, probably along the lines of failure to follow methods. It can be a fine line one must walk; however, it will take time for someone who is grossly overallowed to reach the level of severe discipline, whereas inflating over-70's is dishonest, a cardinal infraction that could lead to immediate termimation with no recourse. Take the lesser of the two evils.
As for why drivers do it, it isn't always about the money. Ironically, it is often used to boost up time on the over/under report to soften the blow of an ugly over-allowed day. While technically one cannot get fired for performance, consistently being on the report may put one on the radar of the higher ups, and they could begin scrutinizing your methods and work day, and may find some legitmate way to discipline you, probably along the lines of failure to follow methods. It can be a fine line one must walk; however, it will take time for someone who is grossly overallowed to reach the level of severe discipline, whereas inflating over-70's is dishonest, a cardinal infraction that could lead to immediate termimation with no recourse. Take the lesser of the two evils.
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Covemastah
Hoopah drives the boat Chief !!
soberups
Pees in the brown Koolaid
Miscounting by 1 or 2 on one day can be explained as a data entry error.
Doing it every day for 30 days isnt a data entry error.
When the company suspects something like this, they wait and give the idiot all the rope he needs to hang himself.
If I need to make several trips to deliver bulk to an apartment building I'll sheet the number of trips past 1 as 70+ There's no other way to sheet the extra time for the extra trips.
Also, I come across many packages where the weight on the label doesn't match the actual weight of the package. There's a lot of shady shippers out there. You gotta love the 1lbs label on a 50lbs box.
Also, I come across many packages where the weight on the label doesn't match the actual weight of the package. There's a lot of shady shippers out there. You gotta love the 1lbs label on a 50lbs box.
