A
anonymous6
Guest
Re: contract approval
no.
out of principle.
no.
out of principle.
Tentative Agreement
- Thread starter Notretiredyet
- Start date
Packmule
Well-Known Member
Re: contract approval
Still undecided here. Don't really want their stupid raises. All that translates into is a far more hostile work environment for us, and higher dues for the Teamsters. Absolutely nothing impresses me as far as hours control or dealing with the heavy handed BS we deal with from the company should and accident or injury occur. Don't want a strike, but sure feel sold out right now. Were the Union bosses listening to us at all???
Still undecided here. Don't really want their stupid raises. All that translates into is a far more hostile work environment for us, and higher dues for the Teamsters. Absolutely nothing impresses me as far as hours control or dealing with the heavy handed BS we deal with from the company should and accident or injury occur. Don't want a strike, but sure feel sold out right now. Were the Union bosses listening to us at all???
Re: contract approval
A PART TIME job is exactly that. NO part time job can support a family, so for people still riding that horse, it's time to dismount.
I'm not going to lie, unless I hear something at the meeting with my local that REALLY sways my opinion, I plan on voting yes.
Is the job perfect? By no means. But as others have said, we shovel cardboard for quite a good bit of money. I plan on having a nice chunk saved up by my retirement to not be dependent on a pension, so that's not such a bother either.
A PART TIME job is exactly that. NO part time job can support a family, so for people still riding that horse, it's time to dismount.
I'm not going to lie, unless I hear something at the meeting with my local that REALLY sways my opinion, I plan on voting yes.
Is the job perfect? By no means. But as others have said, we shovel cardboard for quite a good bit of money. I plan on having a nice chunk saved up by my retirement to not be dependent on a pension, so that's not such a bother either.
You should be voting NO on your supplement instead. We only have summer and peak casual drivers. Even this new 9.5 language will protect our RI cover drivers based upon stipulation #1 and #2. You need to enforce the intent of language in your contract. Our cover drivers start at $18.75 under the new deal. Now, our casual drivers will be a pool of part timers. No more outside casuals. The time and duration that the casuals work will come off their progression. So if your PT to drive for the summer vacation and peak can take up to 24 weeks a year off your progression.
3 done 3 to go
In control of own destiny
Re: contract approval
Will be a NO for me. Unfortunately Hoax will be correct -------over 80% passage. Sheeple
Will be a NO for me. Unfortunately Hoax will be correct -------over 80% passage. Sheeple
4
40andOut
Guest
Re: contract approval
Is there new language allowing a new classification of driver? If not, and this is already allowed, why don't we see it happening on a widespread basis now?
Is there new language allowing a new classification of driver? If not, and this is already allowed, why don't we see it happening on a widespread basis now?
Overpaid Union Thug
Well-Known Member
I am voting no because....... .we are still expected to deliver 100+ lb freight (not packages) of furniture, and we still haven't given management any incentive NOT to violate our seniority and will continue to receive "will comply" letters from the hearings.
As far as the rest of the TA is concerned.....I'm happy.
As far as the rest of the TA is concerned.....I'm happy.
RealPerson
Well-Known Member
Re: contract approval
You work at a Box Factory????
The Boxes I lift have Very Heavy things in them, and they must be lifted out of my power zone at a very fast pace.
You work at a Box Factory????
The Boxes I lift have Very Heavy things in them, and they must be lifted out of my power zone at a very fast pace.
Re: contract approval
On the nosey. Hoffa/hall did too much talking and not enough listening!!
SouthernComfort
Well-Known Member
Re: contract approval
Check it again stink.... anytime a "part time cover driver" gets from Nov1-Dec31 will not count towards their progression. We had new cover drivers come up last year in Oct drive ALL peak, then got the boot back to the building because they can not earn time towards progression OR acquire cover driver seniority during peak. A few of those guys had 3 years more seniority than me and havent seen a truck since 2012... I know for a solid fact they wont return to just drive peak again this year for these wages when they can double in the hub for MORE $$$
Check it again stink.... anytime a "part time cover driver" gets from Nov1-Dec31 will not count towards their progression. We had new cover drivers come up last year in Oct drive ALL peak, then got the boot back to the building because they can not earn time towards progression OR acquire cover driver seniority during peak. A few of those guys had 3 years more seniority than me and havent seen a truck since 2012... I know for a solid fact they wont return to just drive peak again this year for these wages when they can double in the hub for MORE $$$
728ups
All Trash No Trailer
I think you miss my point: compared to what other Blue Collar Workers make in similar companies The TA far exceeds what employees of the companies I listed make,and would (IMO of course) be astounded anyone would consider a 'No' vote
As far as organizing, I am with you. Old Dominion Freight has a big hub on Moreland Ave and I would love to see these guys organized
HEFFERNAN
Huge Member
Catatonic
Nine Lives
Re: contract approval
No package car driver... Your right though your not a psychic....
No package car driver... Your right though your not a psychic....
Re: contract approval
Find out for yourself and read the proposal.
I don't understand how people bitch and complain about the contract current and proposed with out reading them first.......
Find out for yourself and read the proposal.
I don't understand how people bitch and complain about the contract current and proposed with out reading them first.......
Re: contract approval
I don't know how many years you have in but people live off Social Security making a lot less then $2000 a month. It's called planning and have a budget for what your income is. You can't live like a king when you retire if you don't plan. Putting all your eggs in one basket for safe keeping hasn't been a good idea for ever.
I don't know how many years you have in but people live off Social Security making a lot less then $2000 a month. It's called planning and have a budget for what your income is. You can't live like a king when you retire if you don't plan. Putting all your eggs in one basket for safe keeping hasn't been a good idea for ever.
didyousheetit
Well-Known Member
710's agreement already has triple time paid for 9.5's
UPS_Broken_Dreams
Active Member
I really hope this happens, drivers are greedy and getting more part timers a chance to drive would be great. I would be that idiot to take your overtime away from you for $16 a hour with a grin 
SouthernComfort
Well-Known Member
Re: contract approval
Ive not made one complaint about $. Im 29 years old partner, I was driving at 21 making over $50k a year... more than the people I went to college with, YES I dropped out of college to drive the truck. Why? Better pay, better benefits, and a Fortune 500 company, I would not find that with a Criminal Justice degree. I almost have triple digits in 401k, I max out my Roth every year, and I do well on my index funds in my private portfolio. UPSGuy72.... relate with me man... the human body cant drive package 200 stops a day 5 days a week.
If you throw a soup can on the floor a half dozen times, it will eventually be so dented up it cant be open with a can opener, sure the soup is still fine... but the outside makes the inside worthless.
Ive not made one complaint about $. Im 29 years old partner, I was driving at 21 making over $50k a year... more than the people I went to college with, YES I dropped out of college to drive the truck. Why? Better pay, better benefits, and a Fortune 500 company, I would not find that with a Criminal Justice degree. I almost have triple digits in 401k, I max out my Roth every year, and I do well on my index funds in my private portfolio. UPSGuy72.... relate with me man... the human body cant drive package 200 stops a day 5 days a week.
If you throw a soup can on the floor a half dozen times, it will eventually be so dented up it cant be open with a can opener, sure the soup is still fine... but the outside makes the inside worthless.
brown_trousers
Well-Known Member
Re: contract approval
Just because part time doesnt support a family, doesnt mean they shouldnt be paid well for their time. The bottom line is that none of us should have to take concessions in any way, shape, or form with UPS at its most successful point in history.
Ill be voting no
Just because part time doesnt support a family, doesnt mean they shouldnt be paid well for their time. The bottom line is that none of us should have to take concessions in any way, shape, or form with UPS at its most successful point in history.
Ill be voting no
Similar threads
