The Russians Are Coming, The Russians Are Coming!
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speaking of election influence and money, trump got $8 billion in coverage, hillary got 5...everyone else got nothing.
im sure it had nothing to do with teh grease that rose to the top which america ended up voting for (or not at all).
Catatonic
Nine Lives
I have been skeptical of a Trump/Russia collusion from day one.
This is about Russia involvement in the election with no Trump link.
Wisconsin is just one state to be cleared of any Russian involvement.
Only one other state was even close so it doesn't affect the outcome.
yea i just thought it was wierd how msnbc was ONLY talking about that aspect everyday as if the rest of the election system was perfect.
i havent actually looked into it until recently, and everyone is saying theres no evidence.
right now i highly doubt it was enough to sway the outcome.
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
If Russia's goal was to undermine our faith in democracy and trust in our government, and they succeeded, do you think our government would let us know? Wouldn't that be playing right into what Russia wanted all along?
I honestly hadn't heard hardly anything about hacking. It's really about their use of social Media and fake news stories and rumors to influence people. It's proven they did that, and impossibile to prove the amount of influence that might have had.
So basically, they succeeded.
america's faith in your democracy and trust in government has already been undermined.
i think i heard hes going to run. god help you.
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
is that what russia's government told you today on RT?
500 rubles for little ricky.
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
Doubt, exactly, now you're getting it.
was it debunked? greenwald mentions something about it in this article:
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Remember that time the Washington Post claimed that Russia had hacked the U.S. electricity grid, causing politicians to denounce Putin for trying to deny heat to Americans in winter, only to have to issue multiple retractions because none of that ever happened? Or the time that the Post had to publish a massive editor’s note after its reporters made claims about Russian infiltration of the internet and spreading of “Fake News” based on an anonymous group’s McCarthyite blacklist that counted sites like the Drudge Report and various left-wing outlets as Kremlin agents?
Or that time when Slate claimed that Trump had created a secret server with a Russian bank, all based on evidence that every other media outlet which looked at it were too embarrassed to get near? Or the time the Guardian was forced to retract its report by Ben Jacobs – which went viral – that casually asserted that WikiLeaks has a long relationship with the Kremlin? Or the time that Fortune retracted suggestions that RT had hacked into and taken over C-SPAN’s network? And then there’s the huge market that was created – led by leading Democrats – that blindly ingested every conspiratorial, unhinged claim about Russia churned out by an army of crazed conspiracists such as Louise Mensch and Claude “TrueFactsStated” Taylor?
And now we have the Russia-hacked-the-voting-systems-of-21-states to add to this trash heap. Each time the stories go viral; each time they further shape the narrative; each time those who spread them say little to nothing when it is debunked."
not today, but they do a good job at that and rightfully so.
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
You get your news from a media outlet that receives 300 million dollars a year from the Russian government. It's really no surprise you don't think Russia did anything wrong kid.
im not really familiar with the fake news argument. i remmeber cornel west saying that supposedly fake news is the far right and far left, so all we have to do is go back to the establishment centre and all of a sudden we got real news...give me a break.
ALOT of news lies. msnbc, cnn, cbs. thats the how rich keep us under control and keep the money flowing to them.
thats the intercept with jeremy scahill, naomi klein, jeremy scahill, and a few other guys who i recognize. no affiliation with the ruskies.
but keep letting that hate flow through you.
i would only trust RT on this issue depending on the journalist who was covering it.
oldngray
nowhere special
Not something that can be proven or disproven so its little more than hype from the media.
clickbait makes them money
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
It's proven they did it.
The amount of influence can't be proven.
It's not hype. I'd say it's worth talking about.
oldngray
nowhere special
Incorrect.
Its proven they attempted it. But not that they succeeded in anything other than the DNC primaries - which was caused by stupidity and not hacking.
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