The Russians Are Coming, The Russians Are Coming!

rickyb

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Glenn Greenwald‏Verified account @ggreenwald 8h8 hours ago




The most amazing thing is that, as a Trump/Russia skeptic from the start, even I thought they would end up nabbing at least one American, like Carter Page, for conspiring with Russia. They didn't even get Carter Page! I *overestimated* what Mueller would find:

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rickyb

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VP: You become a managemen1t problem. You also are portrayed as unhinged. This is a very important. Why are there so many conspiracy theories in the 20th and 21st century? Secrecy breeds that. The secrecy state, or the culture of secrecy of governments, sends people into the sewers looking for explanations. You want people to have a rational, reasonable understanding—tell us what’s happening. When you actually look at what’s happening, it doesn’t look very reasonable and rational. It looks very ugly.

First Julian Assange, Then Us
 

rickyb

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  1. Glenn Greenwald‏Verified account @ggreenwald 10h10 hours ago


    CNN should have a countdown clock for when their attacks on Robert Mueller start. It's not long now.


    Glenn Greenwald‏Verified account @ggreenwald 11h11 hours ago




    I've honestly never seen the type of media meltdown that I'm seeing on CNN. They are so emotionally invested in the storyline that they've been pushing for 2+ years and they know what Mueller did to it and how this will forever reflect on them.

  2. Glenn Greenwald‏Verified account @ggreenwald 10h10 hours ago



    I'm almost feeling sorry for the CNN panel. They are really hurt and are not even hiding it. Just live up to what you've done.
 

rickyb

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And, I should say, the Democrats are helping him. They are. Take the focus on Russiagate. What’s that all about? I mean, it was pretty obvious at the beginning that you’re not going to find anything very serious about Russian interference in elections. I mean, for one thing, it’s undetectable. I mean, in the 2016 election, the Senate and the House went the same way as the executive, but nobody claims there was Russian interference there. In fact, you know, Russian interference in the election, if it existed, was very slight, much less, say, than interference by, say, Israel. Israel, the prime minister, Netanyahu, goes to Congress and talks to a joint session of Congress, without even informing the White House, to attack Obama’s policies. I mean, that’s dramatic interference with elections. Whatever the Russians tried, it’s not going to be anything like that. And, in fact, there’s no interference in elections that begins to compare with campaign funding. Remember that campaign funding alone gives you a very high prediction of electoral outcome. It’s, again, Tom Ferguson’s major work which has shown this very persuasively. That’s massive interference in elections. Anything the Russians might have done is going to be, you know, peanuts in comparison. As far as Trump collusion with the Russians, that was never going to amount to anything more than minor corruption, maybe building a Trump hotel in Red Square or something like that, but nothing of any significance.

The Democrats invested everything in this issue. Well, turned out there was nothing much there. They gave Trump a huge gift. In fact, they may have handed him the next election. That’s just a—that’s a matter of being so unwilling to deal with fundamental issues, that they’re looking for something on the side that will somehow give political success. The real issues are different things. They’re things like climate change, like global warming, like the Nuclear Posture Review, deregulation. These are real issues. But the Democrats aren’t going after those. They’re looking for something else—the Democratic establishment. I’m not talking about the young cohort that’s coming in, which is quite different. Just all of that has to be shifted significantly, if there’s going to be a legitimate political opposition to the right-wing drift that’s taking place. And it can happen, can definitely happen, but it’s going to take work.

Chomsky: By Focusing on Russia, Democrats Handed Trump a “Huge Gift” & Possibly the 2020 Election | Democracy Now!
 

rickyb

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rickyb

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glenn greenwald says there should be protests in the streets because the corrupt pathetic democrats refuse to impeach (not for collusion)
 

rickyb

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the media completely dodged elite responsibility for the election of donald trump and instead blamed external enemies. much like how republicans are doing the same and blaming immigrants:

Mike Gravel‏Verified account @MikeGravel 19h19 hours ago




you live radically divorced from reality if your analysis of 2016 gives more blame for Trump's victory to poorly-designed Russian FB ads than decades of systematic economic and social decay brought on by an elite class lacking any sort of loyalty to the country's people
 

rickyb

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chris hedges compares medias conspiracy theories of trump collusion to invasion of iraq. and he says the same liberals in the media who wanted to invade iraq also peddled the russian collusion. says they will lose their credibility and wont be believed for anything thats actually happening like the poisoning of america.

but the russian collusion line by the media was very profitable, and not covering the actual issues like a shrinking middle class is also very profitable.

pretty sure nader said the fbi didnt even interview trump.

 
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