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vantexan

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Why not a worker-owned co-op?
If shareholders rape the employees, that's cool, because the employees are the shareholders. Whatever gets skimmed off their wages in profits gets returned to them in share value. If wages get too high and hurt share price, the workers get the wages that depressed the share price.
Win-win.
Nobody needs Wall Street.
And no need for a union. The employees own the thing.

Beware saying it's impossible. I can show you it has been done.
If it can be done great. Wall Street is a lot more than stock prices. It's seed capital, it's bond issuance, it's futures trading that keeps prices reasonably steady. It's absolutely necessary in an economy our size.
 

vantexan

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surely u know some ppl who run small biz who dont make a lot of money

i do
But tell me, if they work hard to make that small business viable, to make it grow, should they give an equal share to their employee/s? If they don't should the employees just take their business from them?
 

rickyb

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But tell me, if they work hard to make that small business viable, to make it grow, should they give an equal share to their employee/s? If they don't should the employees just take their business from them?
its a bad idea to put all the decision making power in so few peoples hands

in addition, the business does not work without the workers. but the reverse is not true: there would be businesses that are simply worker managed and run. its not okay to profit off of workers and to boss them around undemocratically.

to answer your second question, UK almost had a small revolution which wouldve given workers first right to buy out businesses that are being sold and turn them into cooperatives.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
its a bad idea to put all the decision making power in so few peoples hands

in addition, the business does not work without the workers. but the reverse is not true: there would be businesses that are simply worker managed and run. its not okay to profit off of workers and to boss them around undemocratically.

to answer your second question, UK almost had a small revolution which wouldve given workers first right to buy out businesses that are being sold and turn them into cooperatives.
And where do these workers get the money to start these businesses? I know it can be done starting small but businesses also fail all the time.
 

Overpaid Union Thug

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I'm getting OldTimer's disease in my young age.

Would you remind me of where I said I hope they take no prisoners?
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wilberforce15

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If it can be done great. Wall Street is a lot more than stock prices. It's seed capital, it's bond issuance, it's futures trading that keeps prices reasonably steady. It's absolutely necessary in an economy our size.
The worker-owned cooperative would be privately held.
This is a viable, even superior, model from both a union and social perspective.
You don't need a union when the workers are the owners.

That's the best example. Management salaries far below all peers. All kinds of industries successfully penetrated, from finance to manufacturing, with this model and a stable, successful, 10B+ revenue set of worker cooperatives (almost 100k workers) make it happen.
This should be encouraged. Screw Wall Street. Lefties shoudl love it for how good it is for workers. Righties should love it because these co-ops keep people off the government dole.
 

DriveInDriѵeOut

Inordinately Right
The worker-owned cooperative would be privately held.
This is a viable, even superior, model from both a union and social perspective.
You don't need a union when the workers are the owners.

That's the best example. Management salaries far below all peers. All kinds of industries successfully penetrated, from finance to manufacturing, with this model and a stable, successful, 10B+ revenue set of worker cooperatives (almost 100k workers) make it happen.
This should be encouraged. Screw Wall Street. Lefties shoudl love it for how good it is for workers. Righties should love it because these co-ops keep people off the government dole.
LMFAO
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
The worker-owned cooperative would be privately held.
This is a viable, even superior, model from both a union and social perspective.
You don't need a union when the workers are the owners.

That's the best example. Management salaries far below all peers. All kinds of industries successfully penetrated, from finance to manufacturing, with this model and a stable, successful, 10B+ revenue set of worker cooperatives (almost 100k workers) make it happen.
This should be encouraged. Screw Wall Street. Lefties shoudl love it for how good it is for workers. Righties should love it because these co-ops keep people off the government dole.
I wonder if Elon is saying screw Wall Street? Maybe his workers can seize the means of production?
 

DriveInDriѵeOut

Inordinately Right
You love them.
It's why you support the big government covid policies they profited from. You are a slave boy.
 
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