The Russians Are Coming, The Russians Are Coming!

rickyb

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yea bc in many ways china disgusts me
China's financial and real estate markets are collapsing because they didn't/don't understand market fundamentals. And amazingly the American Left still supports China while attacking American conservatives. We aren't the ones locking down whole cities where people can't even leave their homes. We aren't putting people into concentration camps. We aren't attacking religious minorities. We aren't using slave labor. We aren't the ones with an extremely polluted environment. Yet you still think China is great.
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no you have 1,000,000+ corona deaths

u use slave labor

you have guantanamo and black sites around the world. largest prison pop in the world

and your financial system never recovered from 2008. its a ponzi scheme
 

vantexan

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markets dont factor in true costs. which is why we have so much pollution and are on the verge of system collapse. for example a part on an old car breaks, and instead of fixing it, you buy a whole new car. its insane. phones could be upgradable; theyd be 2x the size if this were true, but we have a throw away culture. in addition many stuff is not used 99% of the time.

btw, europe has laws stating workers get 5 weeks paid vacation. america has a market. which one is better?
And will never be. Most people I know keep their cars until they have too many problems to be worth keeping. Where exactly do you think jobs come from if nothing new is made? And if you have different clothes in your closet aren't you guilty of having stuff that isn't being used? I can only wear one set a clothes at a time. I'm not going to wear a coat in the summer. You haven't thought all of this out.
 

PT 4 Life

Most-Hated Member
yea bc in many ways china disgusts me
China's financial and real estate markets are collapsing because they didn't/don't understand market fundamentals. And amazingly the American Left still supports China while attacking American conservatives. We aren't the ones locking down whole cities where people can't even leave their homes. We aren't putting people into concentration camps. We aren't attacking religious minorities. We aren't using slave labor. We aren't the ones with an extremely polluted environment. Yet you still think China is great.
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Yeah I’d rather deal with the USA
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
China's financial and real estate markets are collapsing because they didn't/don't understand market fundamentals. And amazingly the American Left still supports China while attacking American conservatives. We aren't the ones locking down whole cities where people can't even leave their homes. We aren't putting people into concentration camps. We aren't attacking religious minorities. We aren't using slave labor. We aren't the ones with an extremely polluted environment. Yet you still think China is great.
no you have 1,000,000+ corona deaths

u use slave labor

you have guantanamo and black sites around the world. largest prison pop in the world

and your financial system never recovered from 2008. its a ponzi scheme
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What slave labor? And the U.S. has enemy combatants to deal with a sites to deal with them. And its been proven repeatedly that not all covid deaths were due to covid. And our financial system works just fine if you keep politicians out of it. And if there are excesses it works itself out. China's is collapsing because of a lack of understanding of economics.
 

Thebrownblob

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China's financial and real estate markets are collapsing because they didn't/don't understand market fundamentals. And amazingly the American Left still supports China while attacking American conservatives. We aren't the ones locking down whole cities where people can't even leave their homes. We aren't putting people into concentration camps. We aren't attacking religious minorities. We aren't using slave labor. We aren't the ones with an extremely polluted environment. Yet you still think China is great.


Ricky truly believes all rights, all opportunities, and all environmental, and societal problems should be solved by Central planning. The problem with that is if some people don’t like how the problems are solved the central Planners Will force you. It’s a terrible idea that has failed with disastrous consequences everywhere it’s tried.
 

PT 4 Life

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Ricky truly believes all rights, all opportunities, and all environmental, and societal problems should be solved by Central planning. The problem with that is if some people don’t like how the problems are solved the central Planners Will force you. It’s a terrible idea that has failed with disastrous consequences everywhere it’s tried.

i get it that’s why China ended up in a starvation. I’m not against capitalism, but it definitely has it faults that people ignore.
 

vantexan

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What states don't have million dollar houses in them?
I think he's referring to the average cost of homes in California is now a million. What these people never get is California was once a prosperous, well run Republican state. People moved there to get ahead including a lot of liberals. The liberals looked at all that prosperity and thought they could build something really special where everyone could benefit. So taxes were raised. And raised. And raised. Free this and that were given out. Prices rose to pay those taxes and still make a living. Now they have a huge homeless problem because prices are too high. And they're the first to say "see, capital doesn't work." There's not a Democratic controlled state or city where costs and taxes aren't high. Meanwhile all the Democratic politicians seemed to have gotten rich on just their government salaries. Amazing.
 

DriveInDriѵeOut

Inordinately Right
I think he's referring to the average cost of homes in California is now a million.
No it's not.
These kids are drama queens.
They live in a culture of victimhood.

Even in California, there are cities where the average home price is lower than the national average. Sorry you're not going to get an oceanfront property kiddos, deal with it.
 

vantexan

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you can say what you want but Russia and China are now world powers. So whatever they did helped in the end.
Russia has a huge amount of territory with abundant natural resources yet their economy is the size of the Texas economy. They're a world power due to Soviet nukes.

China is a world power due to capitalism and the world moving manufacturing there to take advantage of abundant cheap labor.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
No it's not.
These kids are drama queens.
They live in a culture of victimhood.

Even in California, there are cities where the average home price is lower than the national average. Sorry you're not going to get an oceanfront property kiddos, deal with it.
The national average is now ridiculously high. You're not going to find many houses less than $700k in safe neighborhoods in California.
 
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