Trump Is Copying Hitler’s Early Rhetoric and Policies

BrownArmy

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Regulations are good if they correct infringements on the rights of other individuals.
No one I know of has said anything about all regulations are bad ... the discussions were about over regulations.

I agree, what’s troubling is larger corporations lobbying to put in regulations that stifle competition.

And of course overly burdensome regulations written by Milton trying to find his stapler.

My initial point was the ‘ALL REGULATIONS BAD’ crowd doesn’t have it quite right.

See, we agree!
 

El Correcto

god is dead
I agree, what’s troubling is larger corporations lobbying to put in regulations that stifle competition.

And of course overly burdensome regulations written by Milton trying to find his stapler.

My initial point was the ‘ALL REGULATIONS BAD’ crowd doesn’t have it quite right.

See, we agree!
Where should the federal government be involved?
 

BrownArmy

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Where should the federal government be involved?

When lobbyists literally force rule changes in the FDA so that the FDA cannot, by new law, inspect pork production facilities, and consumers die, that’s where.

That doesn’t answer your question, but it’s a true story.

I’m actually not a regulation fan, mostly because they’re generally written not for the safety of citizens but for business’ interests.

Which is fine to a point, but I expect as a citizen of the wealthiest country in the world that I won’t die from eating bacon produced by a company that was given the task of regulating itself. That’s some 1890-1930’s Upton Sinclair crap.

I get the argument against Gubment doing anything, because they mostly do it wrong, but that’s an argument for fixing government, not an argument that government has no role.

Get money out of politics, plain and simple. Otherwise, we’re all being cucked by corporations who have infinitely more leverage than you or I will ever have.
 

El Correcto

god is dead
When lobbyists literally force rule changes in the FDA so that the FDA cannot, by new law, inspect pork production facilities, and consumers die, that’s where.

That doesn’t answer your question, but it’s a true story.

I’m actually not a regulation fan, mostly because they’re generally written not for the safety of citizens but for business’ interests.

Which is fine to a point, but I expect as a citizen of the wealthiest country in the world that I won’t die from eating bacon produced by a company that was given the task of regulating itself. That’s some 1890-1930’s Upton Sinclair crap.

I get the argument against Gubment doing anything, because they mostly do it wrong, but that’s an argument for fixing government, not an argument that government has no role.

Get money out of politics, plain and simple. Otherwise, we’re all being cucked by corporations who have infinitely more leverage than you or I will ever have.
I’m not asking you trick questions, being a smart ass or anything.

I’m asking you in a federalist society, can you give a broad definition of the types of regulations you think should be passed by the federal government in place of local government.

I’ll make it easier to, don’t even have to worry about what is constitutional to regulate on a federal level.
 
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El Correcto

god is dead
My main gripe with “OMG you wanna set rivers on fire” crowd is we have a constitution, we live in a federalist society, what role do you want to federal government to play in this. I’m not a huge fan of the centralized regulation models of the left. I like state citizens being able to weigh their options and interests, not just pass sweeping regulation for the entire country to the detriment of local economies.
 

BrownArmy

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My main gripe with “OMG you wanna set rivers on fire” crowd is we have a constitution, we live in a federalist society, what role do you want to federal government to play in this. I’m not a huge fan of the centralized regulation models of the left. I like state citizens being able to weigh their options and interests, not just pass sweeping regulation for the entire country to the detriment of local economies.

The problem is, that doesn’t work very well.
 

El Correcto

god is dead
If California wants to be a homeless sanctuary, not allow two-stroke dirt bikes and drive certain businesses out of their state, good for them more power to them. I don’t want to force Texas regulations on them and I don’t want to live in a :censored2: hole with bums ODing on my front porch and my neighbors determining what kind of motorcycle I can have.
 

Brown echo

If u are not alive than for sure truth is not real
Pfft, Trump is a Jew lover.

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Old Man Jingles

Rat out of a cage
There is a role for the federal government in this wether I like it or not, but we don’t just hand them power they shouldn’t have to force our will on states we don’t live in.
The Constitutional authority for the National Government to regulate is when a company or an individual in one state harms or infringes on the rights and freedoms of individuals in another state.
An example is waste being dumped in one state that hurts or threatens the health of individuals in another state.
 

El Correcto

god is dead
The Constitutional authority for the National Government to regulate is when a company or an individual in one state harms or infringes on the rights and freedoms of individuals in another state.
An example is waste being dumped in one state that hurts or threatens the health of individuals in another state.
Yes, like a river that runs between states, just because Kentucky doesn’t mind a little river fire doesn’t mean Tennessee agrees.
 

BrownArmy

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The Constitutional authority for the National Government to regulate is when a company or an individual in one state harms or infringes on the rights and freedoms of individuals in another state.
An example is waste being dumped in one state that hurts or threatens the health of individuals in another state.

don't forget interstate commerce: that's where us socialist fascist baby-killing business-killing drugged out :censored2:s really learned to turn the regulation screw tight!
 

Old Man Jingles

Rat out of a cage
don't forget interstate commerce: that's where us socialist fascist baby-killing business-killing drugged out :censored2:s really learned to turn the regulation screw tight!
That brings into question whether that is supported by the Constitution.
If it is interstate commerce and the affected states are OK with the behavior or action,
then it's none of the National Government's business ... IMHO.
 

El Correcto

god is dead
That brings into question whether that is supported by the Constitution.
If it is interstate commerce and the affected states are OK with the behavior or action,
then it's none of the National Government's business ... IMHO.
Like they can keep their mitts off a chance to regulate lol. Some cry baby from a non effected state in DC will see it as their chance to enforce their will on others.
 
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