Trump's Economy

vantexan

Well-Known Member
yeah let's start with the truth that 2 pipelines aren't going to appreciably impact the national economy. And approving two pipelines is not cutting regulations.
By your reasoning we shouldn't do this or that because it doesn't impact much. Collectively it does over time. You seem to be saying Trump should be able to just wave his hands and make everything right. You want instant results. Doesn't work that way.
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
By your reasoning we shouldn't do this or that because it doesn't impact much. Collectively it does over time. You seem to be saying Trump should be able to just wave his hands and make everything right. You want instant results. Doesn't work that way.
Time is a finite resource. Wasting time on a single pipeline, dying industries like coal, or a single air condition plant, is all for show. It's just fuel for rhetoric to convince small minded people the government is actually capable of doing something.
 

refineryworker05

Well-Known Member
By your reasoning we shouldn't do this or that because it doesn't impact much. Collectively it does over time. You seem to be saying Trump should be able to just wave his hands and make everything right. You want instant results. Doesn't work that way.
Come on that’s not my reasoning.

The discussion is about the “Trump economy”. Fact Trump has not passed any legislation to impact the economy.

So republicans have taken to both lying about how well the economy and the labor market are doing and then saying well Trump cut regulations to get around the reality that Trump hasn’t done anything to improve economic growth.

I say the cut regulations is a bs talking point because the people using it don’t know any actual regulations Trump has cut.

Now you responded with the 2 pipelines as regulation cuts or maybe you meant them as impacting the economy, but you can’t mean that because construction has even began on the pipelines.

To which I said those pipelines won’t impact the nation’s economy enough to move the needle on growth or job creation. That’s not saying oh don’t do it because it won’t have an impact. It’s saying it won’t have a national economic impact.
 

refineryworker05

Well-Known Member
You are trying to have a discussion with people that just parrot what they hear with no reasoning.


It is the most impressive thing about republicans as a political entity. Their members get on board and they just believe no matter how big the lie that republicans elected officials or republican media is selling. They just fully embrace it and repeat it. Reality be damned.

The list of demonstrably false things that most republicans believe to be true is incredible. It takes a certain kind of discipline to get millions of people to believe all these insane things.
 
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floridays

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It is the most impressive thing about republicans as a political entity. Their members get on board and they just believe no matter how big the lie that republicans elected officials or republican media is selling. They just fully embrace it and repeat it. Reality be damned.

The list of demonstrably false things that most republicans believe to be true is incredible. It takes a certain kind of discipline to get millions of people to believe all these insane things.
Begin naming the list of "demonstrably false things." I'd like to have a shot at them, for conversation of course. For discussion's sake, name the targets, extremely hard to take aim at a generalization.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Time is a finite resource. Wasting time on a single pipeline, dying industries like coal, or a single air condition plant, is all for show. It's just fuel for rhetoric to convince small minded people the government is actually capable of doing something.
No, your statement is typical of those who think they know everything, therefore if it's something you don't know it has no validity to you.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
It is the most impressive thing about republicans as a political entity. Their members get on board and they just believe no matter how big the lie that republicans elected officials or republican media is selling. They just fully embrace it and repeat it. Reality be damned.

The list of demonstrably false things that most republicans believe to be true is incredible. It takes a certain kind of discipline to get millions of people to believe all these insane things.
And if you lie enough it might stick. Typical Democrat strategy.
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
No, your statement is typical of those who think they know everything, therefore if it's something you don't know it has no validity to you.
I'll take your complete dodge of the topic to mean you learned something, and are now embarrassed by your previous ignorance. Good talk.
 

floridays

Well-Known Member
I'll take your complete dodge of the topic to mean you learned something, and are now embarrassed by your previous ignorance. Good talk.
@vantexan is intimidated by your superior intelligence, you're just to slippery and smart for us dumbuns. You never talk to me anymore, is there a problem smart fella? You need to keep learnin us sumthin X man.
 

bbsam

Moderator
Staff member
what the banks and housing industry were doing wasnt regulated, packaging bad loans etc. We had low growth because everything was being regulated
If you deregulate every industry, do you think the vast majority of the companies will "play by the rules" (that don't exist) or will everything be driven by profit motive?
 

newfie

Well-Known Member
If you deregulate every industry, do you think the vast majority of the companies will "play by the rules" (that don't exist) or will everything be driven by profit motive?

the rules are still in place , the extra layers of redundant regulation that create a lot of unnecessary rework are being peeled off.
 
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