Ukrainians be like:

[zubenelgenubi]

Silly BS. We aren't intervening to save Ukraine because we don't have the same obligations we have with NATO and we aren't going to risk a nuclear attack to save them.

Keep telling yourself that. Maybe that will make it true.

 

[vantexan]

You keep saying that, and I still don't care.


What's happening against civilians in Ukraine? Invading forces are negotiating safe evavuation routes for them, while the Ukraine government is trying to prevent people from leaving? We agree there's genocide happening in Ukraine. Who's causing it?


Because you say so. Van boy is the arbiter of truth. All hail van boy.



I know what side I'm on, that's true. And I'm pointing out war crimes that you call fantasy, but I'm sweeping them under the rug. Who's committing war crimes?


Nope. I am worried about the very real enemy who is trying to commit global genocide, by their own admission. But you strawman that by lying about "nebulous" forces. China and Russia are economic rivals to be sure, and their interests aren't in line with the principals of freedom and liberty. I have no problem admitting that. But we have a much more dangerous enemy that poses a far more imminent threat, and you allow them to distract you with Ruskophobia.


Ah, the last refuge of an enabling collaborator, the old "everyone I disagree with is a conspiracy theorist." Good luck with that logic.


Literally every "conspiracy theory" I have shared over the last two years has been true. You don't seem to have a very reliable way to sort out what's what. Hope that works out for you.


They don't hide it. It's in their agendas they post online. Lol.

At least you're willing to admit you're caught up in a conspiracy theory. When do all of our soldiers, and the rest of us, start dropping like flies? It's a fantasy that you desperately want to believe.

By the way escape routes into Russia and Belarus are just ways to hold refugees hostage until Ukraine gives in. The only legitimate escape routes are into Poland, Slovakia, and Romania. Of course you already knew that but figured most on here wouldn't know. Why are you so hot to support Putin?

 

[El Correcto]

You think so because you are an imperialist. Increasing "western influence" through military adventurism was always going to back fire. All you need is a dementia ridden puppet in the white house, a military that has been captured by enemy combatants at the highest levels, and an attempt to murder or oust a large portion of the real service men through experimental gene therapy and replacement by woke cultists. We have all that, which is why we are not intervening to save our "ally" from those mean ol' Ruskies.

I didn’t realize we spread western influence by invading Ukraine. Keep grasping vladdy.
The military power is there for places like Afghanistan, places that are a risk global stability. Showing a willingness to use force is there to keep people like Vladimir Putin who are a risk to global stability in line.

 

[El Correcto]

You keep saying that, and I still don't care.

I’m shocked.

What's happening against civilians in Ukraine? Invading forces are negotiating safe evavuation routes for them, while the Ukraine government is trying to prevent people from leaving? We agree there's genocide happening in Ukraine. Who's causing it?

Wow a state trying to defend itself from being conquered is trying to conscript citizens, my god how unprecedented in human history. More Russian lies, they are killing them as they flee.
The people who invaded and are now firing rockets into civilian centers, the Russians.

I know what side I'm on, that's true. And I'm pointing out war crimes that you call fantasy, but I'm sweeping them under the rug. Who's committing war crimes?

Russia, who decided to involve itself in an Ally’s civil war that they have been funding and instigating ever since they puppet got tossed out by the people of Ukraine who don’t want to live under the Russian oligarch’s thumb.

Nope. I am worried about the very real enemy who is trying to commit global genocide, by their own admission. But you strawman that by lying about "nebulous" forces. China and Russia are economic rivals to be sure, and their interests aren't in line with the principals of freedom and liberty. I have no problem admitting that. But we have a much more dangerous enemy that poses a far more imminent threat, and you allow them to distract you with Ruskophobia.

I’m glad you have come to that conclusion finally, it took you long enough vladdy. Just a couple pages back you declared Russia to be a better “western democracy” than our NATO allies. Seriously unhinged and uninformed stuff you are spewing.
Not sure what nonsense you are ranting about in the rest of this post, please provide me some reading materials to browse through about these “genocides” that are being committed.

 

[El Correcto]

Imagine trying to rationalize Russia as the lesser of two evils over your own country and nato allies.

You people are nutty.

 

[zubenelgenubi]

At least you're willing to admit you're caught up in a conspiracy theory. When do all of our soldiers, and the rest of us, start dropping like flies? It's a fantasy that you desperately want to believe.

Strawman... boring.

By the way escape routes into Russia and Belarus are just ways to hold refugees hostage until Ukraine gives in. The only legitimate escape routes are into Poland, Slovakia, and Romania. Of course you already knew that but figured most on here wouldn't know. Why are you so hot to support Putin?

Strawman. Boring...

 

[newfie]

China is also propping up to Russian market by buying lots of their stocks

Hmm....

i think China set up Russia. after this debacle we'll all fear a crazy ass like Putin having Nukes but his army is a joke.
Both China and US are studying Russia's management of this campaign and probably laughing their behinds off.

 

[zubenelgenubi]

Imagine trying to rationalize Russia as the lesser of two evils over your own country and nato allies.

You people are nutty.

You have literally lived through two years of what our country is willing to do to people and you immediately forgot all of it once your lust for Russian blood was elicited. You people are nutty.

 

[newfie]

Like we didn't have the right to invade Syria, Lybia, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc, etc etc. Or is it just ok when the US does it?


Let me know when Russia intentionally violates the rules of war. Oh, right, you probably believe the Twitter reports about them trying to trigger meltdowns at nuclear power plants.

I'm not a fan of our boys being the worlds police force. I do believe in the concept of peace through strength.

 

[vantexan]

Strawman... boring.



Strawman. Boring...

It's so much more exciting to believe in conspiracy theories.

 

[newfie]

America is nato, always has been.

not in the 60's when I lived there. Everyone there believed the Russians could and would come across that line if we didnt stay alert. My old man used to tell me that where he was stationed they figured they had 17 minutes to live if the soviets came across that border. Nato got fat and lazy and believed they could coast on our coat tails. They crawled in bed with the russians and now they're paying the price.

 

[El Correcto]

You have literally lived through two years of what our country is willing to do to people and you immediately forgot all of it once your lust for Russian blood was elicited. You people are nutty.

Willing to do what? I wore a mask for a couple months when out in public. Still unvaccinated, still employed, natural immunity, got paid for being sick, etc.
Not sure what “they” did to you..?
Are you okay fren? Do I need to call Putin to come give you a hug?

 

[newfie]

I hate him because the news has turned him into a folk hero which tells me all I have to know I’ve seen the same thing with Robert mueller, Tony fauci and several others

Unfortunately there are not many hero's willing to stand up to Russia right now.

 

[newfie]

NATO is afraid to do anything right now

ball less at the least and possibly completely emasculated .

 

[zubenelgenubi]

I’m shocked.

Wow a state trying to defend itself from being conquered is trying to conscript citizens, my god how unprecedented in human history. More Russian lies, they are killing them as they flee.

Don't worry, Zelensky and air soft toting beauty queens will personally put a stop to that with air support from video game characters. I have a bridge for sale.

The people who invaded and are now firing rockets into civilian centers, the Russians.

More Twitter video game screen shots?

Russia, who decided to involve itself in an Ally’s civil war that they have been funding and instigating ever since they puppet got tossed out by the people of Ukraine who don’t want to live under the Russian oligarch’s thumb.

Reeee... Russia bad!

I’m glad you have come to that conclusion finally, it took you long enough vladdy

You (ie my deranged fan club members) are the ones who started the strawman that I ever felt differently, and now you've convinced yourselves that I actually ever felt otherwise.

. Just a couple pages back you declared Russia to be a better “western democracy” than our NATO allies.

The EU is run by commies and a few Nazi's, and commies have infiltrated many western countries. You must have forgotten everything that's happened in the last two years. I forgive you, blood lust is a powerful thing.

Seriously unhinged and uninformed stuff you are spewing.

Says the imperialist who believes video game clips are real war videos.

Not sure what nonsense you are ranting about in the rest of this post, please provide me some reading materials to browse through about these “genocides” that are being committed.

Already posted. Do your own homework, and stop believing the chicken hawks and 80's anti-Russia propaganda movies you seem to be going to for your info.

 

[newfie]

What does that have to do with anything? Are you suggesting Ukraine wasn't bombing Donetsk and Luhansk because no refugees? I don't know that there weren't any, because it's irrelevent.

you're arguing just to argue. Van's point is no one in the Ukraine is fleeing to Russia. its a legitimate point that you should probably conceed and move on past.

If Russia was the savior than ukranians would be greeting them as they arrive with cheers and fleeing to russia for help.
it clearly shows the Ukraine is not pro Russia despite Russias claims otherwise.

 

[zubenelgenubi]

It's so much more exciting to believe in conspiracy theories.

 

[newfie]

Russia will win. The future belongs to strong men. Not pride parades.

define victory. They're going to lose a lot of men and equipment if they do win. They could very well face an insurgency that last decades.
The economic sanctions will continue forever starving and alienating the Russians from the world.

where is the victory?

 

[El Correcto]

The USSR was our ally during the last legit war we fought in, when the commies were in charge. Now that Russia is a better example of a liberal democracy, we find ourselves allied with the commies running the EU, ourselves infiltrated by many commies, on many levels.

Honestly laughable stuff bud.
You so thirsty for a strong Russia. You listen to idiots, pinko rhinos who promote the idea of a strong Russia and Russian propaganda to cover up for the failures of the isolationist ideology. It’s not a problem if you teach idiots to celebrate it.

 

[El Correcto]

The economic sanctions will continue forever starving and alienating the Russians from the world.

Laughable stuff.
More nonsense.