UPS The Awful Truth

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by clean hairy, Jul 27, 2016.

  1. clean hairy

    clean hairy Well-Known Member

    Fun video about UPS!
    From 2007 it appaers.

  2. Lead Belly

    Lead Belly BANNED

    It's from 97.
  3. cosmo1

    cosmo1 Just another internet hooligan.

    Old news.
  4. JL 0513

    JL 0513 Well-Known Member

    Video has some laughs but I'm curious at what the problem was. Mainly, the only full time positions within centers are drivers outside of management. How Could 2,000 FT jobs be created that often? They were talking about the package handlers. PT package handlers go full time very seldom as we all know. Simple economics. Like every business in the world, a position created requires the work to be there. The profits have nothing to do with it. A business runs on as few employees they can to accomplish what is needed.
  5. Coldworld

    Coldworld Well-Known Member

    It's from the strike time....monkey ass probably knows the people in the video.... Nice vest.... Are you a frickin Then the dufus who can't talk and needs some water....omg... These guys are so fing out of touch with the average worker it's sick ....
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  6. Coldworld

    Coldworld Well-Known Member

    I think I saw monkey butt in the background in one of the offices.... At first observation it looks like he was working , but after careful examination he was only spinning around in his 1200 dollar leather chair..probably laughing at Norman and making farting sounds..
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  7. UnsurePost

    UnsurePost making the unreadable unreadabler

    You don't understand any of the context, so your post doesn't make sense. The FT jobs were guaranteed in the 1997 contract that UPS agreed to. AKA "22.3 jobs" UPS tried to loophole their way out of creating the jobs. From my understanding, the whole thing went to a panel and UPS lost.
    There is no "extra work" to create FT jobs. The idea is to have two part-time jobs put together to make one FT's very simple and UPS has been doing it for almost 20 years, since.
  8. Coldworld

    Coldworld Well-Known Member

    Did ups ever get to that 10000 number that they promised????
  9. UnsurePost

    UnsurePost making the unreadable unreadabler

    Maybe if we ask H we'll get the truth...
  10. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt Fore Runner Staff Member

    Ken Sternad - Retired - Doing the talking
    Norman Black - Standing in background
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  11. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt Fore Runner Staff Member

  12. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt

    The company's claim (at the time) was business suffered because of the strike....

    And the language allowed them not to create the 22.3 jobs.

    It was deadlocked at the National Panel, and went in to arbitration.

    The first 22.3 people were awarded back pay, and a back-dated seniority date.

    (if I am remembering everything correctly)


    Wasn't he their main mouth piece, for like years ?
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  13. 10 point

    10 point Well-Known Member

    I bet they're glad they granted that interview.
    "Corporate shirts meet junk yard dog."
  14. Inthegame

    Inthegame Well-Known Member

    Your memory is fine.
    On Feb 11, 2000, Arbitrator George Nicolau ruled UPS in violation of Art 22.3 for failing to create 2000 full time jobs from Aug 1, '97 - July 31, '98. The award ("First Year Agreement")included a make whole remedy with back pay from awarded bid to Aug 1, '98, with back dated seniority.
    On Mar 10, 2000 the same arbitrator issued the "Second Year Agreement" award (ordering an additional 2000 ft jobs created) with make whole remedy commencing on Aug 1 '99 to awarded bid date.
    Case # AAA 13 300 1908 98
  15. Orion inc.

    Orion inc. I like turtles

    Sal reminds me of one of my wife's uncles.

    Norman looked a little scared there
  16. olroadbeech

    olroadbeech Happy Verified UPSer

    "Let UPS know what you really think of them."

    all you have to do Sal is come here to the Brown Cafe.
  17. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt Fore Runner Staff Member

    Hope he doesn't come around much!
    More irritated I imagine!
    Enough dealing with your job without some goon comedian showing up unannounced.
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  18. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    We have several here who benefited greatly from the First Year Agreement.
  19. Coldworld

    Coldworld Well-Known Member

    How big is your building... Do you have multiple shifts there??
  20. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Less than 125 total employees.