This thread is not about a political debate, let's do that in the "current events" forum, but instead how a min. wage increase could place some pressure on starting PT. Wage in the upcoming labor talks between the IBT and UPS. I would encourage everyone to go to the "How Can UPS Survive" thread and read "thebrowntruths" response to Dave on the first page concerning PT starting wages. He flat nailed it IMO. If Congress does raise the min. wage and I believe they will, this IMO will force UPS to do one of 2 things. First, raise PT. starting pay which should have been done years ago or 2nd, prepare for the already horrible labor pool from which we choose to get even worse! If UPS and the IBT can come out of these upcoming talks with a contract that addresses the many issues facing us all and still keep everyone generally happy, I'll be in utter shock! Houdini or Criss (Mindfreak)Angel they ain't! JMO.