USPS employee considering UPS

BakerMayfield2018

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Thanks Ron. I'm aware of that. You must know there are plenty of violations or there wouldn't be any grievances. Not to mention those without cajones to file. The mail carriers still get done earlier on a consistent basis. Even if you're on the list, you ain't getting done by 5 pm on any regular basis.
This ain't 1954 Boss. You wanna make a decent living you ain't working 9-5....
 

TG43

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I was a letter carrier at USPS and now work for UPS.

More specifically....I was a a T.E. at USPS. The union royally screwed us by getting rid of that job title and changing it to C.C.A so they could cut $5.95/hr from us. I'm a cover driver at UPS now and make $25.21/hr.

With that said, UPS is 10 times harder and worse than USPS. Seriously. I'm not the type that likes to give advice because people are different (you might like UPS, I dunno) but I'm pretty adamant on this subject. lol. Delivering mail I remember thinking "damn the UPS guy has it easy, he just drives around mostly while I'm walking all these loops". Boy was I wrong. Getting in/out of that truck 180 times a day by itself is a lot of wear and tear on the body. Every day is overwhelming, these trucks don't go out half empty, or even full...they are WAY OVER full every fricken day pretty much.

It was a probably a mistake for me to leave USPS (although I'm not sure how I would have afforded my mortgage).

You would likely work Saturdays as a new UPS driver delivering next day air. If you have cover drivers their, it's likely you would work only a couple days a week then Saturday.

I know USPS has no OT list....no more than 8 hours or you can grieve it....UPS's "list" is ridiculous...it's 9.5. Here, that puts you clocking out at 7:15, not much time for a life. I remember clocking out almost every day at 4:30 for one summer at USPS, man it was awesome.

I could say a lot more but this is too long already. I encountered some harassment at USPS...the Postmaster stood behind me my first couple days as a CCA while I was casing mail...I didn't know the route...of course I was slow casing it. Then he drove by me multiple times on the road. But the harassment at UPS is WAY worse!

I probably make $3/hr more now but it's seriously not worth it. Not even close. Not to me anyways. I have delivered to that postmaster and see letter carrier friends every day. I just act like I made a great decision and UPS is great, lol. If UPS was a 8 or 9 hour job and was done around 5:00 it would be a different world to me probably. But I often don't get home til 8:00 or 9:00 at night at UPS.

We've had 2 drivers quit within the last couple weeks. In my center I'm sure over 100 people have quit since I've been there...I'm including preloaders, supervisors etc. but that should tell you something. It's not a good place to work. That's my opinion anyways.
 
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Box Ox

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I remember thinking "damn the UPS guy has it easy, he just drives around mostly while I'm walking all these loops".

Yep. Common misconception among pretty much everyone but UPS drivers.

"All you do is drop off boxes. How hard can it be?"

People have no idea. Prospective UPSers pop up here on BC and are like, "I'm bored with my office job and want to go on an adventure as a UPS driver!" Lol
 

hellfire

no one considers UPS people."real" Teamsters.-BUG
UPS sucks sucks sucks now Want to make good money to buy toys you never see? Want zero time to enjoy family and friends? Want a destroyed body so IF you make it to retirement your crippled? Than UPS is for you
 

Brownslave688

You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
Yep. Common misconception among pretty much everyone but UPS drivers.

"All you do is drop off boxes. How hard can it be?"

People have no idea. Prospective UPSers pop up here on BC and are like, "I'm bored with my office job and want to go on an adventure as a UPS driver!" Lol
Most people think we do 40 or so stops a day also.
 

Yolo

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Chances are your first position at UPS would be a package handler. Pay is $10 or minimum wage whichever is higher. You have to wait a year for benefits, holiday pay. And you get to get up at 4am to work 3.5-5 hours. The chance to go into driving could take 6 months. Could take 6 years. And when you get your chance to drive there's no guarantee that you will actually qualify. And you will be working Saturdays.
 
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I currently work for the Post Office as a CCA (City Carrier Assistant). I have a degree, but ended up at the USPS during a layoff situation, and started to make pretty good money, so I've stuck around. I should get moved up to a regular within the next few months. For the most part, I can't stand the job though. I hate fumbling around with mail all day. Management at Post Office is far worse than you can imagine. NOTHING function properly. I've worked at several offices and it's all the same. USPS is really the classic example of a ''too big to fail'' type scenario. It's an incredibly demoralising and toxic atmosphere at work everyday. So I've been chatting with the UPS guy that works in the area I'm in and he said he makes over 90k a year now that he's up to the max wage ($34/hr?). And he gets weekends off! (this is another reason I want to leave USPS. You NEVER get 2 days off in a row, which greatly reduces quality of life). He's not much older than me - early 30's. So I started thinking this week about making the move over to UPS, but then I started reading forums and it seems to be awfully difficult to get a FT gig. I'd be willing to relocate pretty much anywhere in country, If I knew I'd be making that kind of money in 4-5 years.

Curious how common it is for USPS guys to transfer over? Would my USPS employment help me get in? Any suggestions how to go about this?

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated!
Lol. Your experience means nothing to ups. Take the way you describe your work and management BS and times that times ten and you have ups .
 

Wally

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SaladTosser

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I feel like UPS is the better place to work. I have a sister who is a mail carrier and she barely has a full weekend off. You might clock out earlier at the post office, but after you get enough seniority at UPS, it's easy street. I don't clock out at 8 or 9 at night anymore. But both have their ups and downs, so good luck to you.
 
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