Just cutting some of the shaddows i'm dealing with . What is a starting pt sup grade?? (13 maybe?) 16 to 20 grade?? (info needed) only ask this because 20's catch a lot of bull ****uz here.( maybe well deserved) Tanks to tieguy for below(repost): 11 to 14 is F/t supervisor grade. could be a little fuzzy on some of these but here is what I believe they are: 11 generally a starting grade. No experience no one reporting to you. 12 a staff grade with no one reporting to them 13 operations grade supervisor with hourly employees reporting to you. 14 operations with other management ( p/t sups) reporting to them. 15 Lead supervisor with other f/t sups reporting to them. ( a center manager, my idea not tie) no one ever was hurt form to much information ,but plenty have died from to little . my 2 cents. also a funny line i thouht of : I'M here to kick @$$ and take names, Damn my pencil just broke .