MAKAVELI
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Just the beginning in the Drumpf era.So as long as somebody is on my own property, they have no constitutional rights? OK. Stupid has reached a new depth.
Just the beginning in the Drumpf era.So as long as somebody is on my own property, they have no constitutional rights? OK. Stupid has reached a new depth.
I'd wait before celebrating if I were him.Protesters cited for burning without a permit from the Fire Department. FedEx courier was not charge with anything. That tell you anything?
I see some articles where the guy is being lauded as a "hero". It's a bit of a pet peeve of mine to see that term get used so loosely these days.
I'm sorry, but putting out a small blaze with a fire extinguisher is not exactly what I would call an act of heroism - flag or not. If that's the case then we need to come up with a new term to describe the first responders who were running up the stairs of the WTC towers on 9/11. Cuz they definitely ain't in the same league.
It seems that those doing the burning are seen by some as heroic for sticking their finger in the eye of the "establishment." And for some of us someone who risks his livelihood and the ridicule of the Left to protect that symbol is heroic to some extent. Not the same as running into a burning bldg to save a baby or some such, but admirable.I see some articles where the guy is being lauded as a "hero". It's a bit of a pet peeve of mine to see that term get used so loosely these days.
I'm sorry, but putting out a small blaze with a fire extinguisher is not exactly what I would call an act of heroism - flag or not. If that's the case then we need to come up with a new term to describe the first responders who were running up the stairs of the WTC towers on 9/11. Cuz they definitely ain't in the same league.
Again, tell me where, since the civil rights era, is this happening? Where are the goons with guns and clubs that are doing this? Favorite tactic of the Left to suggest this, same Left who deny there are instances of voter fraud thus no need for picture I.D.'s.Well Van, since the civil rights era, this is the method your side uses to minimize the "minority" vote. And I think it's pretty sad that someone with Native American ancestry is blind to this form of oppression.
If someone comes on to your property to burn a flag you've got no right to tell them to quit and leave? They must be allowed because of free speech? Are you handing them the matches too?So as long as somebody is on my own property, they have no constitutional rights? OK. Stupid has reached a new depth.
Are you saying that property rights run counter to constitutional rights? Because I see them running concurrently.If someone comes on to your property to burn a flag you've got no right to tell them to quit and leave? They must be allowed because of free speech? Are you handing them the matches too?
I may be interpreting you wrong, but it sounds like you are saying if someone wants to exercise their free speech rights no one can restrict that in any manner. Even if a protest march comes down your street and several marchers stop on your lawn to burn a flag you've got no right to tell them to stop and get off your lawn? The irony is many on the Left are anti-religion but what you fail to see is your liberal dogma is your religion. And no one better tell you how you can "worship."Are you saying that property rights run counter to constitutional rights? Because I see them running concurrently.
Absolutely. And that's settled law and the way it should be. Unfortunately today there are those who use the spectre of racism to cowl others into giving them what they want on just about every issue.Remember that in the SOUTH when states wouldn't go after whites' who violated blacks' rights, the Federal government had to prosecute for violating their Constitutionally guaranteed rights.
So for someone to say "those are just state property rights etc., they are missing the bigger picture.
I haven't seen anyone praising the protesters as heroic. I don't think the fedex guy was thinking about his livelihood when he went off the rails. He was triggered and struck out violently. For the side that is supposedly for law and order there is an awful lot of cheer for this vigilante.It seems that those doing the burning are seen by some as heroic for sticking their finger in the eye of the "establishment." And for some of us someone who risks his livelihood and the ridicule of the Left to protect that symbol is heroic to some extent. Not the same as running into a burning bldg to save a baby or some such, but admirable.
I haven't seen anyone praising the protesters as heroic. I don't think the fedex guy was thinking about his livelihood when he went off the rails. He was triggered and struck out violently. For the side that is supposedly for law and order there is an awful lot of cheer for this vigilante.
He forced himself into a crowd, shoved people and used his fire extinguisher to intimidate. Yes, he was clearly the instigator of any physical violence.Is putting out a fire more violent than starting a fire?
Is that truly all you saw? Really?Is putting out a fire more violent than starting a fire?
He forced himself into a crowd, shoved people and used his fire extinguisher to intimidate. Yes, he was clearly the instigator of any physical violence.
Is that truly all you saw? Really?
He forced himself into a crowd, shoved people and used his fire extinguisher to intimidate. Yes, he was clearly the instigator of any physical violence.
I'm sure it was calm rational discourse.I would have loved to hear the audio.