What Locals are supporting?

[Neanderthal]

Our building is voting this down until language to screw us out of work gets removed.

What language will screw you out of work?

I have not seen anything that would do that. They could lay you off Monday now and work the cheaper guy Saturday but that is not happening.

 

[Neanderthal]

The locals recommending the membership to vote yes or no is such a broken system.

The ones that tell you to vote yes are staying in line with the old gaurd or maybe believe it’s a good contract.

The ones telling you to vote no do it to mess with the Hofficers and Hoffa.

All locals are playing politics. The ones in the vote no camp seem to be less interested in securing our future than seating their future in a higher paid position.

If everyone was doing their job, there would be no necessity to tell us how to vote on our future.

The contract should sell it self.

$41 Per hour is money that would attract people with benefits. The auxiliary to that is monstrous. Everyone overlooks that new money as quite a leap.

Unfortunately the demise of this union is going to originate from two areas; TDUs vote no movement and the internal political mechanics at the IBt.

The vote no has taken grass roots this time on social media. Mostly impart I believe due to the nature of there being many younger employees capabale of capturing audiences through their abilities to navigate social media.

Why would any company give their best offer if they knew the teamster membership would vote no, regardless of the circumstances?

It’s tiring to hear the union business agents sell a dead horse. It’s also tiring to hear a vote no movement that provides nothing but negativity with no offering of plausible solutions.

 

[vicrattlehead]

Local 688
Master: Yes
Supplement: Yes

 

[Future]

Local 688
Master: Yes
Supplement: Yes

 

[Future]

 

[DELACROIX]

Local 688
Master: Yes
Supplement: Yes

Enlighten me...For What Reasons?

 

[wide load]

The locals recommending the membership to vote yes or no is such a broken system.

The ones that tell you to vote yes are staying in line with the old gaurd or maybe believe it’s a good contract.

The ones telling you to vote no do it to mess with the Hofficers and Hoffa.

All locals are playing politics. The ones in the vote no camp seem to be less interested in securing our future than seating their future in a higher paid position.

If everyone was doing their job, there would be no necessity to tell us how to vote on our future.

The contract should sell it self.

$41 Per hour is money that would attract people with benefits. The auxiliary to that is monstrous. Everyone overlooks that new money as quite a leap.

Unfortunately the demise of this union is going to originate from two areas; TDUs vote no movement and the internal political mechanics at the IBt.

The vote no has taken grass roots this time on social media. Mostly impart I believe due to the nature of there being many younger employees capabale of capturing audiences through their abilities to navigate social media.

Why would any company give their best offer if they knew the teamster membership would vote no, regardless of the circumstances?

It’s tiring to hear the union business agents sell a dead horse. It’s also tiring to hear a vote no movement that provides nothing but negativity with no offering of plausible solutions.

I agree with this post. However, I’ve often said what could pass this contract. Fix the broken 22.4 language, improve the 9.5 language and catchup raise for current PTers instead of a higher starting wage. Contract passes.

 

[Bubblehead]

My Local says no to all, until an acceptable Master is presented.

 

[Frankie's Friend]

My Local says no to all, until an acceptable Master is presented.

Tell them to open the Rider while they're at it.

 

[Kamikaze]

Local: 804
Master: No
Supplement: Last I checked ours wasn't done. Wait strike that. As of today they're advising a No vote on the supplement as well. The national stopped us from finishing negotiations on it.

Ron Carrey would recommend this contract.

 

[eats packages]

162 lol

Local 162 is fully recommending that our members vote yes on the National Master, Western Region Supplement and Joint Council 37 Package and Sort Riders. We sincerely believe, when taken as a whole, this is a good contract for our members and your families, and that it is worthy of your support and vote. They are all good contracts that provide industry leading health care, pension, wages, job security and working conditions.

Some members had arrived at the meeting with a pre determined no vote based on what they had heard from others and read on the internet, but they left the meeting commenting to the Union and others that they were now voting yes.

If I wanted AJstyles to yell at me for hours on end about his crappy neo-conservative views I would have just ordered pay-per-view.

 

[Frankie's Friend]

The locals recommending the membership to vote yes or no is such a broken system.

The ones that tell you to vote yes are staying in line with the old gaurd or maybe believe it’s a good contract.

The ones telling you to vote no do it to mess with the Hofficers and Hoffa.

It’s tiring to hear the union business agents sell a dead horse. It’s also tiring to hear a vote no movement that provides nothing but negativity with no offering of plausible solutions.

The first paragraph is a bold faced lie and the last sentence is half of a lie.

We presented our issues at proposal meetings and for the most part at least half the issues were ignored or worsened.
We offered solutions. The leadership had and has their own agenda.

Please stop trying to confuse people here that only read, not post. The above statements are for the most part false and misleading.

We did our part and the result was FTR.

FACT

 

[Frankie's Friend]

Ron Carrey would recommend this contract.

If you cant spell his name correctly dont speak for the dead.

 

[vicrattlehead]

Enlighten me...For What Reasons?

We had a contract meeting and they told us they recommended a yes vote on both the master and supplemental. They argued that the creation of the 22.4's is comparable to the creation of the 22.3's back in 97 and that creating any new full-time jobs, regardless of classification is a good thing.

 

[wide load]

We had a contract meeting and they told us they recommended a yes vote on both the master and supplemental. They argued that the creation of the 22.4's is comparable to the creation of the 22.3's back in 97 and that creating any new full-time jobs, regardless of classification is a good thing.

So they think a full time inside job at $15 an hour more is comparable to a full time driving job at $6 an hour less? Did anyone call them out?

 

[BrownRecycler]

Local: (Will not disclose)

Master: No
Local: (not made yet)

My post earlier explained why. The package handler's 2nd tier system is compromise in the new agreement. While the newbie are getting the 2nd tier treatment within their first 3 years, those who came before are going to be no difference than those 3 years earlier. It is true that the new language will break division among truck drivers. That's another reason for the No vote. We can't have too many division while slowly dismantling the 2nd tier.

The new contract will create future demise undermining the seniority value and break up teamster's teamwork because their interest is diverted toward their "division" and not your. The new contract is a series of problematic language entanglement that making your contract harder to interpret and dispute for grievance.

The financial analysis that suggested the proposal who never work in a seniority and 2nd tier environment will NEVER have the senior brother and sister's best interest.

 

[LagunaBrown]

The financial analysis that suggested the proposal who never work in a seniority and 2nd tier environment will NEVER have the senior brother and sister's best interest.

Well if that is how you see it then it’s just like these kids saying to strike when they were never in one. They have no clue.

 

[BrownRecycler]

Well if that is how you see it then it’s just like these kids saying to strike when they were never in one. They have no clue.

What are you talking about?

 

[cachmeifucan]

Most people on here are the one's that stay informed and know the company can do better. Vote no let ups know we are united and not desperate. Then next contract they will know to bring a better offer if we accept this bs then they will do this every 5 years

 

[Frankie's Friend]

Local 908 PO/BA:

National Yes

Central Yes

We had a contract meeting about a month ago. The BA wrote down questions from members and never got back to them and then he told the members that subcontracting ups volume to the post office is good for the membership.

Our building is voting this down until language to screw us out of work gets removed.

What language will screw you out of work?

I have not seen anything that would do that. They could lay you off Monday now and work the cheaper guy Saturday but that is not happening.

If you actually read the whole post you'll see that surepost "rolling trailer" issue was the topic on subcontracting not 22.4s.
Ttku

The locals recommending the membership to vote yes or no is such a broken system.

The ones that tell you to vote yes are staying in line with the old gaurd or maybe believe it’s a good contract.

The ones telling you to vote no do it to mess with the Hofficers and Hoffa.

All locals are playing politics. The ones in the vote no camp seem to be less interested in securing our future than seating their future in a higher paid position.

If everyone was doing their job, there would be no necessity to tell us how to vote on our future.

The contract should sell it self.

$41 Per hour is money that would attract people with benefits. The auxiliary to that is monstrous. Everyone overlooks that new money as quite a leap.

Unfortunately the demise of this union is going to originate from two areas; TDUs vote no movement and the internal political mechanics at the IBt.

The vote no has taken grass roots this time on social media. Mostly impart I believe due to the nature of there being many younger employees capabale of capturing audiences through their abilities to navigate social media.

Why would any company give their best offer if they knew the teamster membership would vote no, regardless of the circumstances?

It’s tiring to hear the union business agents sell a dead horse. It’s also tiring to hear a vote no movement that provides nothing but negativity with no offering of plausible solutions.

It's also tiring to read all of this redundant posting of the obvious and presumed obvious.