Some feeder drivers were forced to come in Saturday and go over their 60 hours here. It was all on property. I asked if they would be getting double time after 60 and management said no that it was only package or 22.4. In my mind any employee should be getting double time over 60.
Working over 70 hours as Driver Helpers
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UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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Your opinion is spot on----what's good for one classification is good for all of them. They need to file grievances.
clipperman
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“Pursuant to this paragraph” is the wording I think they’re using to avoid paying double time unless they 70 hour rule is implemented,even though I think I remember on more than one of those calls we were told ALL hours 60 were to be paid at double time,slight of hand
That's what Dennis said in the conference call. Over 60 hours is double time no matter if you volunteer or are forced.
Bubblehead
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Unfortunately semantics (opinions) don't win grievances, contractual language does.
....and the Article 26 language in play here doesn't support your assertions, in my opinion.
Bubblehead
My Senior Picture
Yes!!!
"Pursuant to this paragraph", a paragraph about nothing more than what is to happen when package car drivers (not any other classification) are moved from the 60 hour rule to the 70 hour rule.
As far as "the call", I don't remember exactly, but it wouldn't be hard to slip that caveat past the masses while selling a big win in this new language?
BigUnionGuy
Got the T-Shirt
Uh.... no.
Article 26 Section 5 is specifically for pkg drivers.
"The Company shall not change the DOT sixty (60) hours in seven (7) days to the seventy (70) hours in eight (8) days rule for package drivers except at Peak."
https://teamster.org/sites/default/files/ups18nationalmaster.pdf
Read the whole section.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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This needs to be addressed in 2023.
Bubblehead
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That's really none of your business.
What'dyabringmetoday???
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It should have included Feeder Drivers. And yes- I already know what your response will be.
BigUnionGuy
Got the T-Shirt
Why ?
I'll take "the members should have voted.... for $100.... Alex." ??
What'dyabringmetoday???
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Why? I think it is obvious. As far as members not voting- they've given up considering the slobs that run this union look out for themselves.
BigUnionGuy
Got the T-Shirt
70 hours in pkg.... is no way comparable to 70 hrs in feeders.
They were never in the game to begin with.
This isn't the 50's, 60's, and 70's....
What'dyabringmetoday???
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So you have worked 70 in both classifications? Recently I assume...
What'dyabringmetoday???
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They aren't in the game because the union WANTS it that way. Don't pretend differently.
DRporch
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I have and it’s not comparable at all. Feeders is a cakewalk there’s not a single hard thing about it. Now doing 500+ stops in a day is.
What'dyabringmetoday???
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Then perhaps feeder drivers should get straight time for ALL hours worked. Seems reasonable.
Rick Ross
I'm into distribution!!
Unfortunately, that is legal.
I was talking to an Old Dominion driver Monday while waiting at a CPU. He said he made just under $30 an hour and didn't get overtime I believe until over 60 hours.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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Those of us who are entitled often don't realize just how good they have it.
