Worried about my pension

BigBrown87

If it’s brown, it’s going down
you still get stuff for free in america, just not as much as other western countries.

ive made use of free roads, cops, libraries, parks in america.
Yeah I'm pretty sure my taxes pay for roads, libraries and cops to patrol my neighborhood. I guess living for free with mom and dad has clouded your understanding of what tax money pays for in the US.
 

BigBrown87

If it’s brown, it’s going down
you still get stuff for free in america, just not as much as other western countries.

ive made use of free roads, cops, libraries, parks in america.
It's nice to see a socialist tell us roads and cops are free and they do it out of charitable goodness. Boy you need to lay off the pipe and start paying taxes like the rest of the working class people do. Oh I forgot your from Canada, it all makes since now.
 

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
This company has gone to poopy.

Well, we are Big Brown, the number 2 delivery service in the world. Shoulda seen that coming.

Frankly, I'm worried about my pension. And its not just Frank.

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Been In Brown Too Long

Ex-Package Donkey
If I had it my way you wouldn’t get Medicaid or social security that you generation voted to plunder and underfund. How about a little personal accountability and not being entitled to the labor of others.

Sincerely,
millennial
Shocking, a millennial with all the answers. Personal accountability, labor of others? You do realize we pay into social security for 30-40 years, oh and it's not by choice? Let's have this discussion after you've paid your dues and we'll see how much you'll have changed your tune. The fact that our elected representatives have failed us is another matter entirely, but current mismanagement of government has happened on your watch as well, so save me the personal responsibility lecture junior.
 

El Correcto

god is dead
Shocking, a millennial with all the answers. Personal accountability, labor of others? You do realize we pay into social security for 30-40 years, oh and it's not by choice? Let's have this discussion after you've paid your dues and we'll see how much you'll have changed your tune. The fact that our elected representatives have failed us is another matter entirely, but current mismanagement of government has happened on your watch as well, so save me the personal responsibility lecture junior.
That’s no way to talk to someone that pays your government allowance.

Your sense of entitlement comes from being robbed your entire working life by the elderly.
It’s like someone kicking in my door stealing my TV and then me feeling entitled to steal my neighbors.
 

40 and out

Well-Known Member
This company has gone to poopy. There comes a time when even the best lay to rest and It's happening at UPS. I'll start with personal appearance. Half the drivers walking in look like homeless pukes in ragged brown uniforms. There is no shaving policy anymore. Off a few days? No worries...come on in with your face moss. Dudes with prison tattoos on their necks and "sleeves". No Prob. Chicks missing Dicks? Well, put a cattle ring in your nose, lotsa tat's, a crew cut and a baggy uniform. Walk like a low-land gorrilla and you're in!. No money for DR bags, uniforms, car-wash soap, brushes or friend'n toilet paper and having fuel in your vehicle depends on the day of the week. Frankly, I'm worried about my pension. And its not just Frank. It's Shirley too. Shirley they have have to see this is a sinking ship.
Put as much into your 401K as you can. Do not even rely on your pension to be there when you retire. Even if it is still there it will probably be way too small to provide for much of your retirement needs. My local hasn't increased in over 20 years. Was good money in the 1990's. Now it's only about 30% of my pre-retirement income.
 

watdaflock?

Well-Known Member
This company has gone to poopy. There comes a time when even the best lay to rest and It's happening at UPS. I'll start with personal appearance. Half the drivers walking in look like homeless pukes in ragged brown uniforms. There is no shaving policy anymore. Off a few days? No worries...come on in with your face moss. Dudes with prison tattoos on their necks and "sleeves". No Prob. Chicks missing Dicks? Well, put a cattle ring in your nose, lotsa tat's, a crew cut and a baggy uniform. Walk like a low-land gorrilla and you're in!.
Let me guess, you're a Trump supporter?

MAWA

"Make America White Again!"
 

WTFm8

Well-Known Member
Most of these newbies are terrible, not all of them.


They think it's funny when they have 5 late airs and 10 missed pieces

It's sad.

... it is funny when it’s an 8:45 start but the air came at 8:30, so you don’t hit the road till 9:15 but your first stop was to be 9:05.

Nothing like the 10:28 message “no late air” when you had a 20 mjmute late start.

I note every day like that to cover my own ass.
 

brownmonster

Man of Great Wisdom
That’s right, he borrowed $2.7 trillion from social security and never paid it back. Imagine if that money was left alone to gain interest after all these years.
The govt borrowed that money from SS. SS receives several hundred million a year in interest from the govt.
 

rickyb

Well-Known Member
It's nice to see a socialist tell us roads and cops are free and they do it out of charitable goodness. Boy you need to lay off the pipe and start paying taxes like the rest of the working class people do. Oh I forgot your from Canada, it all makes since now.
you can call it whatever you want, i call it "free", but i prefer a system where i dont have to pay money either before or after i use cops, or roads, or parks.
 

rickyb

Well-Known Member
Yeah I'm pretty sure my taxes pay for roads, libraries and cops to patrol my neighborhood. I guess living for free with mom and dad has clouded your understanding of what tax money pays for in the US.
i like when it comes out of taxes instead of pay per use.
 

El Correcto

god is dead
you can call it whatever you want, i call it "free", but i prefer a system where i dont have to pay money either before or after i use cops, or roads, or parks.
Basically every dollar you make or spend goes to some government function. Parks, cops, roads, healthcare or college to name a few.

Like me buying ammunition or guns, there is a conservation tax on it going to pay for wildlife management, hunter training and public gun ranges.
Federal Aid in Wildlife Restoration (Pittman-Robertson) | Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife
It’s never free when it comes to government programs, it’s redistribution of wealth through taxation and fines.

Which is fine but you can’t call it free.
 

rickyb

Well-Known Member
Basically every dollar you make or spend goes to some government function. Parks, cops, roads, healthcare or college to name a few.

Like me buying ammunition or guns, there is a conservation tax on it going to pay for wildlife management, hunter training and public gun ranges.
Federal Aid in Wildlife Restoration (Pittman-Robertson) | Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife
It’s never free when it comes to government programs, it’s redistribution of wealth through taxation and fines.

Which is fine but you can’t call it free.
sure and i dont like sales taxes on everything. maybe just sales taxes on relatively expensive things, or things we dont like.

the people with the most money should pay the most taxes. i dont like tolls, parking meters, or tuition.

i want a more just tax system.
 

Been In Brown Too Long

Ex-Package Donkey
That’s no way to talk to someone that pays your government allowance.

Your sense of entitlement comes from being robbed your entire working life by the elderly.
It’s like someone kicking in my door stealing my TV and then me feeling entitled to steal my neighbors.
First off, I don't collect social security, or a government allowance as you call it.

It's not a sense of entitlement, it's a genuine entitlement. If you contribute to any, ANY retirement plan, you are "entitled" to a return on your investment. You are not necessarily guaranteed that the return will be greater than your investment. How you see a difference between social security, a pension, a 401k, an IRA, etc, I can't explain. The difference I see is as opposed to the others, SS is not optional. If you disagree with the idea of SS not being optional, there is an argument to be made. But that decision was made long before any of us were born.

Your cute anology means nothing to me.

This about sums it up, primarily from minute 6 on...

I can't stop laughing about a millennial lecturing about others being entitled. You have got to be sh#$ting me!
 

El Correcto

god is dead
First off, I don't collect social security, or a government allowance as you call it.

It's not a sense of entitlement, it's a genuine entitlement. If you contribute to any, ANY retirement plan, you are "entitled" to a return on your investment. You are not necessarily guaranteed that the return will be greater than your investment. How you see a difference between social security, a pension, a 401k, an IRA, etc, I can't explain. The difference I see is as opposed to the others, SS is not optional. If you disagree with the idea of SS not being optional, there is an argument to be made. But that decision was made long before any of us were born.

Your cute anology means nothing to me.

This about sums it up, primarily from minute 6 on...

I can't stop laughing about a millennial lecturing about others being entitled. You have got to be sh#$ting me!
Any entitlement they offer you is government sanctioned plunder of someone else’s wealth.

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My 401k money is money I worked for. It’s money that I chose to invest and money that I will withdraw from when I retire.

Social security is not comparable to a 401k.
It’s basically the government taking my money and giving it to old people with the promise they’ll do the same for me. They are covering their past “investors” investments with current investor money. Basically a Ponzi scheme.
 

eats packages

Deranged lunatic
It's nice to see a socialist tell us roads and cops are free and they do it out of charitable goodness. Boy you need to lay off the pipe and start paying taxes like the rest of the working class people do. Oh I forgot your from Canada, it all makes since now.
With the minimalist, millitaristic white boy bootcamp training they get it might as well be free. Oh wait it is. Free and you can't avoid it.
And I pay double taxes on the washington/oregon border, now they want to tax the bridge in between, democrats, un :censored2: believable!!!

Maybe your local departament can lay off the bearcat treaded vehicles and invest in at least an extra 2 years in kicka@@ class with experts in communication and psycology.
 
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