Caught on camera: UPS Driver kicks dog.

[10 point]

looks like the driver was already off. but it is hard to judge without audio

Probably a supe having to cover a spare route.

Hands up don't shoot.

 

[rod]

After watching that video a dozen times I say:

1. The dog was barking and charging at that driver before the kick. I don't care how it was acting after the
kick.
2. It wasn't that much of a kick -actually kind of pansy if you ask me.
3. Who knows how many times that driver has been to the doctor for a dog bite. I had to go 3 times as a
driver.
4. The dog was definitely NOT under control of its master. Some cities might not have a leash law but all
have laws about keeping your animals under control.
5. The driver had every right in the world to defend himself as the other dude was the aggressor.

I would give that driver an atta-boy award.

 

[10 point]

And as someone who's studied Aikido and other Japanese martial arts for 20 years, this was just handled poorly from a conflict resolution standpoint. The body language suggests aggression and escalation on the drivers part. If someone is coming to hit you, stepping back and not projecting makes it less likely the aggressive one will engage.

Evidently the driver didn't study shotokan or any eastern arts.

Maybe he grew up where he learned self preservation from an early age because he had to.

Maybe he just got ripped in the office by a worthless 30 day wonder supe over trumped up issues.

This job can create issues on road by what happens after the pcm.

 

[Orion inc.]

that's because you're an idiot and try to judge everyone who has different view than you..

to own a gun, doesn't mean you have to want to shoot someone..... jeez

No I just call out stupidity when I see it. If you feel judged because of that, that's your issue. Don't go around advocating starting a fight in the name of self defense while in ups Browns. If you think that's a valid viewpoint, well I'm sorry but I'm going to call you stupid and not agree with your "different " viewpoint.

And I never said just because you have a gun means "wanting " to shoot someone. I just think based off my limited interactions with you that you would do something stupid and irrational in a conflict with a gun. I'm sorry you didn't understand that. I'll try not to make points too complicated for you to understand.

And I'm the idiot? Ok glass house.

Anything else you want to throw out there?

 

[Orion inc.]

Evidently the driver didn't study shotokan or any eastern arts.

Maybe he grew up where he learned self preservation from an early age because he had to.

Maybe he just got ripped in the office by a worthless 30 day wonder supe over trumped up issues.

This job can create issues on road by what happens after the pcm.

How do any of those points justify pushing someone while wearing Browns? They don't. Regardless of the situation, he needed to be the bigger person and walk away. Instead ego and chest pounding pride took over.

This job is stressful no doubt. But if you can't control yourself in a professional manner when confronted with conflict, you're going to get what you deserve. Unless the other guy pulled a weapon, the driver had every chance to de escalate the situation and just walk away.

 

[wayfair]

ya, you have to talk s-l-o-w-e-r for me to read your stupidity

 

[Kicked Your Dog]

There were 2 dogs and the kick was justified and not devastating. Who knows what the man said as he ran up on the driver and raised his hand to him. If that would have been in a parking lot on a weekend, someone would be picking them self off the floor. Sucks, though.

 

[10 point]

How do any of those points justify pushing someone while wearing Browns? They don't. Regardless of the situation, he needed to be the bigger person and walk away. Instead ego and chest pounding pride took over.

This job is stressful no doubt. But if you can't control yourself in a professional manner when confronted with conflict, you're going to get what you deserve. Unless the other guy pulled a weapon, the driver had every chance to de escalate the situation and just walk away.

There is no justification for being an aggressor in browns or out of them.

None.

And most folks have NOT taken any form of selfdefense that would trigger how to calmly handle situations like this one.

He made a really poor judgement move no matter what the other guy was saying.

 

[brownmonster]

Dogs. What's the point?

 

[wayfair]

There were 2 dogs and the kick was justified and not devastating. Who knows what the man said as he ran up on the driver and raised his hand to him. If that would have been in a parking lot on a weekend, someone would be picking them self off the floor. Sucks, though.

but we have an aikido master here that thinks all driver's should have situational awareness(learned while he trained for it... the rest of us raise families and have family bbqs)

I have an uncle that does situational awareness classes.. that's what he trains for.
we are package delivery drivers..

 

[Orion inc.]

ya, you have to talk s-l-o-w-e-r for me to read your stupidity

Never said talk genius. I said I would make my points less complicated so you could understand better. Apparently I failed again.


Wow you REALLY are that dumb.

 

[10 point]

If you're talking about self disciplined reactions because of years of martial arts vs no disciplined training you're comparing apples to bananas.
Emotions take over in the absence of discipline.

 

[wayfair]

There were 2 dogs and the kick was justified and not devastating. Who knows what the man said as he ran up on the driver and raised his hand to him. If that would have been in a parking lot on a weekend, someone would be picking them self off the floor. Sucks, though.

the guy was delivering medical supplies

 

[Orion inc.]

There is no justification for being an aggressor in browns or out of them.

None.

And most folks have NOT taken any form of selfdefense that would trigger how to calmly handle situations like this one.

He made a really poor judgement move no matter what the other guy was saying.

I'll agree with these points

 

[overflowed]

Are you actually justifying our guy's behavior?

He deserves to be immediately terminated.

Come on Dave, this dude knew the person was coming, and still kinda kicked the dog. Maybe your boy had prior issues with that dog, or he has has bitten before. I've been bitten before and I don't mess with any dogs that aren't mine. Hands on a customer is a big no no anywhere.

 

[wayfair]

Never said talk genius. I said I would make my points less complicated so you could understand better. Apparently I failed again.


Wow you REALLY are that dumb.

the comes from the guy callin that.....

 

[wayfair]

akiedo master, how long you been driving?

 

[Orion inc.]

but we have an aikido master here that thinks all driver's should have situational awareness(learned while he trained for it... the rest of us raise families and have family bbqs)

I have an uncle that does situational awareness classes.. that's what he trains for.
we are package delivery drivers..

And we have dumb asses like you who would start fights like this guy and not see a problem.

And once again genius, I have kids and a happy marriage and still do all the family stuff too. It's called balancing priorities. Maybe you need to eat a little less bbq and a little more time actually understanding things.

Situational awareness should just be basic common sense when you're out. I'm sorry you're lacking in both of those.

Sorry I'm more than just a "package delivery driver".
Sorry that's all you've seemed to accomplish and I'm betting you're probably not real good at that either

Anything else you wanna try to throw out there at me?

 

[Orion inc.]

akiedo master, how long you been driving?

Almost 20 years princess...and learn to spell. It's Aikido not akiedo.


You're making this way too easy

 

[Orion inc.]

the comes from the guy callin that.....