Does this sound right?

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by Almal5831, Nov 20, 2014.

  1. Almal5831

    Almal5831 New Member

    I am a qualified PT Cover Driver, with only 6 months seniority. My center has about 55 trips on average (non-peak) a day. The past 3 1/2 weeks I have only been utilized as a driver helper. When I addressed my concern today about not driving on my usual split with the driver supervisor, especially during peak his response was,"Peak is next week. Have to work cover drivers as helpers till we can put the routes on...No routes on yet. Be patient it will soon be time this helper crap slows down for about a week". One main reason I am concerned is I make $5.25 less an hour to do the same work as a helper, minus turning the steering wheel & did UPS hire too many new drivers to fulfill non peak volumes i.e.(screwed for work after peak)?
  2. bleedinbrown58

    bleedinbrown58 mouth breathers...everywhere

    Why aren't you getting your regular pay rate....that doesn't sound right.
  3. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Your sup is right. You need to be patient. You will soon have more hours than you probably want.
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  4. upschuck

    upschuck Well-Known Member

    Don't know about PT drivers since we don't have them, whenever a driver jumps, they get their driver rate.

    As far as not having the runs, that is normal. It may cost a little more now, but putting on routes before they are actually need, would probably save money in the long run.
  5. AND THEY WONDER WHY???? the new drivers quit! or do not want to cover drive.
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  6. bleedinbrown58

    bleedinbrown58 mouth breathers...everywhere

  7. Almal5831

    Almal5831 New Member

    Should I be getting my regular driver rate? They are paying helper rate plus $2.
  8. BrownTexas

    BrownTexas Well-Known Member

    1. Talk to you steward about it.
    2. They are suppose to exhaust all drivers before running helpers.

    What sense does it make to you that they can't add routes but run helpers. They aren't adding routes because they can add 60 stops per driver and just run a helper instead of running more routes. Your sup is just lying to you and you are falling for it. Just like the lie that "black Friday" is a scheduled work day.
  9. bleedinbrown58

    bleedinbrown58 mouth breathers...everywhere

    Ask your doesn't sound right.
  10. RonBurgandy??????????

    RonBurgandy?????????? God is Great, beer is good , People are crazy.

    Where the hell did they come up with that rate. Lol. No. It dosent sound right at all. I'd call my ba ASAP. You could prob file and get back pay at your driver rate
  11. Call your business agent.
  12. MC4YOU2

    MC4YOU2 Yep, not wearing brown anymore

    Our agreement (Joint Council 28) says your "normal" rate or $11, whichever is higher. You are pt correct? So probably your inside rate is the rate you'd get, not your utility rate. For sure, ask your BA.

    CHALLY9TX Active Member

    Agree. But why is Black Friday a scheduled work day a lie? How is it a lie?
  14. BrownTexas

    BrownTexas Well-Known Member

    Because they can't force you to work a holiday. How are they going to pay you holiday pay, but if you call in, also take an option day? Getting paid twice if you don't come to work.

    CHALLY9TX Active Member

    What's your point? They can't force you to work on any day. I get paid twice for not coming in. I'm on vacation that week. The confusion comes in that most supplements guarantee the day after thanksgiving as a PAID day. It's NOT a guaranteed day off.
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  16. Almal5831

    Almal5831 New Member

    Spoke to union steward, the union may be filing a mass grievance on behalf of everyone involved. Apparently it's not just happening to me.
  17. ManInBrown

    ManInBrown Well-Known Member

    Check with Stewart
  18. By The Book

    By The Book Well-Known Member

    I think your supervisor was being for the most part straight with you. In a lot of areas the drivers that were on vacation are back to drive their routes. If your thinking you will get your progression rate over helper rate you may be disappointed. If you are used as a helper; after a preload shift and are not the driver you are a helper. You should see overtime paid on the rate you are being paid when you get to 8 hours. Now I do think your pay rate you mentioned is screwy. If they use you as a utility driver where you drive the truck all day, then you should get your progression pay ( ground driving rate ).