DOT vs NON-DOT

[Route 66]

At Express, operating any asset which you haven't been specifically certified to operate by the company will get you into serious hot water if you're caught - regardless of whether it's on the road or within the confines of the facility. Heaven help you if you're involved in any sort of incident while doing so.

 

[It will be fine]

At Express, operating any asset which you haven't been specifically certified to operate by the company will get you into serious hot water if you're caught - regardless of whether it's on the road or within the confines of the facility. Heaven help you if you're involved in any sort of incident while doing so.

I know, there's a golf cart at our terminal and people have to be certified to drive it. It's hilarious. So when they drop you guys down to non-dot do they take away the internal certification on the larger vehicles?

 

[MrFedEx]

Why would it be unsafe or illegal? It doesn't require a CDL.

As Route 66 stated, you can be terminated for operating any vehicle for which you have not been trained or certified. At the ramp, I used to routinely hop on a tug and move dollies...no longer. At a station, you only operate the vehicle(s) you are signed-off on.

 

[MrFedEx]

I know, there's a golf cart at our terminal and people have to be certified to drive it. It's hilarious. So when they drop you guys down to non-dot do they take away the internal certification on the larger vehicles?

Yep. We used to have an electric cart at the ramp, and they wouldn't let the RTDs drive it because they weren't certified. LOFL.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Yep. We used to have an electric cart at the ramp, and they wouldn't let the RTDs drive it because they weren't certified. LOFL.

I am not allowed to drive the irreg cart as I have not been trained on it.

 

[Purplepackage]

We had a non dot guy parking trucks at night and he hit the mirror on another truck and broke it, he was on the verge on loosing his job becasue he wasn't certified.

As long as your certified having an accident is no big deal, sign this accident report and carry on your way. Becasue lets be honest unless you are Upstate you have probably had an accident before

 

[59 Dano]

I'm not your cupcake little man , and my response to your stupid advise remains the same. Managers are not to be trusted to have an hourlie's back when there is a potential for their own job to be in jeopardy.
fedex should have thought about these scenarios before they moved all of those drivers to non-dot. Now its all "do me a favor and break this one little rule, you know for the sake of the operation and all." All the times I have seen managers be d rules to hit numbers etc then when something goes wrong throw that driver under the bus to save their own sorry .
The best advise you can give a newbie is to never ever trust a member of fedex mgmt, (even the ones who act like your buddy),and if he insist on you breaking a rule, get it in writing. Otherwise he should move his own **** truck.

Awww, you're so cute when you're so mad that you can't spell! Like, TOTALLY!

My advice (or advise, if you will) is to not move it if you don't want to. Real difficult concept to grasp.

 

[59 Dano]

I've seen plenty of people under the bus, and guess who keeps their job.

People like you.

Yeah, it's crazy and makes no sense.

 

[hypo hanna]

Awww, you're so cute when you're so mad that you can't spell! Like, TOTALLY!

My advice (or advise, if you will) is to not move it if you don't want to. Real difficult concept to grasp.

A sure sign of an online debate failure.
Attacking the opponents spelling.

 

[vantexan]

A sure sign of an online debate failure.
Attacking the opponents spelling.

Yeah, where's that reply on annuities from Mr.-I'm-a-mgr-so-I-know-everything?

 

[59 Dano]

A sure sign of an online debate failure.
Attacking the opponents spelling.

Attacking? Nah.

If you're going to show off your 8th grade brain, cupcake, I just thought I'd help you.

 

[59 Dano]

Yeah, where's that reply on annuities from Mr.-I'm-a-mgr-so-I-know-everything?

What would you like to know about them?

 

[MrFedEx]

What would you like to know about them?

Dano. Explain our PPA to your audience. Since it's such a great program, I'm sure you'll have something PSP to say about this astoundingly generous annuity.

 

[59 Dano]

Dano. Explain our PPA to your audience. Since it's such a great program, I'm sure you'll have something PSP to say about this astoundingly generous annuity.

Why? I don't normally honor requests.

 

[MrFedEx]

Why? I don't normally honor requests.

You offered to explain annuities. The PPA is one, but you obviously don't even know it.

 

[Sparky]

My buddy who transferred ended up as non DOT long enough for express to make him pay for his own physical

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

My buddy who transferred ended up as non DOT long enough for express to make him pay for his own physical

If you are non-DOT why would you need a DOT physical?

 

[Yozh69]

If you are non-DOT why would you need a DOT physical?

If he was a CDL holder and wanted to keep it. Though not sure why anyone would want to work at Express as a courier if they have a CDL-A.

 

[OrioN]

i know of 2 CDL-A and 1 CDL-B drivers at my hub... scratches head on why they are here when they can clearly go out there and get more for their commercial drivers licenses

one guy said he got tired of the OTR stuff; well then get a local job, ie truck those ground trailers from hub-to-hub

 

[59 Dano]

You offered to explain annuities. The PPA is one, but you obviously don't even know it.

Alright. An annuity is a financial product that pays out structured payments after an upfront lump sum payment is made.

You couldn't have used Google to figure that out?