The way I feel HERE (it seems I always have to qualify this cuz most seem to think I'm making a blanket statement that covers the WORLD), is that nobody put a gun to my head to accept a job here.
I started here knowing what the rules were. At the time, there was no drug testing, for any, let alone feeders, where I have been for 28 of my 31 yrs. The DOT, not UPS, mandated the "random"(whether it truly is or not, I don't care), drug test. If I don't like it, I can simply leave. I don't have to work here. Sounds kinda simple to me.
The ONLY problem I have with random drug testing is this: HERE(notice, I said "HERE" again), is that they always seem to catch you at the first of your run. What's the problem? I always, no matter what run I'm on, days, afternoons, nights, sleep right up until it's time to get up and show and run to the hub. Needless to say, I've taken care of business, that is ALL business, before leaving home. Hub is only 8 mins away. Do I hafta pee again, NOW? Uh, I don't think so. "Well, now that we notified you, you cannot leave our site until you DO pee". You finish the rest of the scenario. Can you pee? If you inhale a bunch of water or coffee to force it, can you limit you normal stops to two or three the rest of your run, then?
Another beef. Again, I say HERE. Most of our out laying centers merely get to take paperwork to clinic and do after their run. Most other freight companies do the same. Why can't we? Again, not a major problem but where's the parity?
Judge me by the quality of my work, not the quality of my urine.
+1I'm all for random drug testing. No drugs, no worries.
LOL, good one, some1else.should probably change that language then so they are not violating my contract in doing so.
why not add we will treat you with respect unless we feel like watching you piss
or something along those lines lol. i know its allowed; legally and contractually my point was that they are treating us like some junkie hooker on probation and i personally find it disrespectful.
Do you think that the guy that backed all the way down the street, should be drug tested?you might have personal things in the trunk of your car....what personal belongings are in your piss that you care that much about?
i think the whole invasion of privacy argument is stupid...it would be different if they made you piss in front of your center manager in his office and he had to hold your [-]dick[/-] "pistol" (or in your case, PISTOLA) to make sure it was real
you piss in a cup in a private room and they check and see if you have done any illegal drugs lately
ups and any other company has the right to know that there employees are drug free so you wont show up high some day and do thousands of dollars of damage while on drugs
Man, this is gonna be a great cruise!I think it's hypercritical sitting at your computer, drinking alcohol, smoking a cigarette, popping a zanax after eating a greasy fast food meal and a chocloate shake, and then, criticise a pot smoker. Besides the ridiculous amount of money the US spends on "The War on Drugs" (that's as useless as tits on a bull), as a stock holder with UPS, I detest funding another penny to any unwarranted additional random drug testing on non-CLD Class-A employees. Take note, Jones and Tex make strong arguments about Gov't and now Corperate slowly eroding our civil liberties,
Every 6 months?I would not be opposed to something like this, maybe not daily but at least yearly. Even if that meant I might have to do it sometime in the future.
Only thing you will find in my pee is more pee. No one should be imparied on the job but what you do on your own time should not be anyone business but your own. Just my feelings
Not arguing here, just asking a question I have no idea what the answer may be. Does the ...hmmm..residual traces ...(I guess that would be an applicable term) that shows up in a drug test impair a person while working? I've read that the evidence of pot use on the weekend could show up on a test given several days later, is this a danger to ourselves and the general public?I agree but what if what you do on your own time carries over to your work time?
yeah yeah yeah...and Monica didn't swallow either. lolYou have nothing to worry about if you do like me and not inhale Bill and I do that.
Not arguing here, just asking a question I have no idea what the answer may be. Does the ...hmmm..residual traces ...(I guess that would be an applicable term) that shows up in a drug test impair a person while working? I've read that the evidence of pot use on the weekend could show up on a test given several days later, is this a danger to ourselves and the general public?
Honestly I don't know the answers to these questions.