One thing all this talk makes me think of, is that an old timer told me 11 years age, what UPS wants most, is Teamster vs Teamster. They do lots of things to divide us. It is more important than ever to not get mad at your loader, your fellow driver, your helper, or anyone except management. They are the ones that drive numbers and crush us all. Think about it, who cares if someone is off the street, or inside for 11 years, or feeders after 2 or 20. We need to be TEAMsters, until we get the contract the way WE want it.