Paying union dues but not in the union

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by Dillinger4, May 5, 2016.

  1. Dillinger4

    Dillinger4 Member

    I had an interview yesterday for a seasonal driving position. The HR rep stated that we would have to pay union dues but would not be in the union. Is this correct?
     
  2. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

  3. Dillinger4

    Dillinger4 Member

    Can you provide clarification? Thank you.
     
  4. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

    You want me to write it out on my naked body and send you a selfie?
     
  5. Dillinger4

    Dillinger4 Member

    If you are a 5'4" 115 lb redhead then please. :-)
     
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  6. upschuck

    upschuck Avatar bet gone wrong

    Not in union until you're qualified, which won't be during the seasonal period. Pay dues and init fees after 30 calendar days. Get a withdrawal card after you finish your time
     
  7. Dillinger4

    Dillinger4 Member

    So then what is the union providing in exchange for union dues? Sounds like nothing since you're not in the union.
     
  8. upschuck

    upschuck Avatar bet gone wrong

    Your negotiated pay.

    Don't forget the initiation fees too. They suck more than the dues.
     
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  10. Dillinger4

    Dillinger4 Member

    Yeah HR never mentioned the initiation fee but perhaps seasonal drivers don't pay it because they will not qualify during the seasonal time frame.
     
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  11. Dillinger4

    Dillinger4 Member

    So I should make sure to ask for a withdrawal card after I am finished driving for the season?
     
  12. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

    I ain't no ginger.
     
  13. upschuck

    upschuck Avatar bet gone wrong

    Yes, that way all is credited to your account, and won't have to repay anything if you get rehired, or a different teamster company.
     
  14. upschuck

    upschuck Avatar bet gone wrong

    You'll be paying it.
     
  15. Dillinger4

    Dillinger4 Member

    Much appreciated my amphibian friend.
     
  16. upschuck

    upschuck Avatar bet gone wrong

    Anytime
     
  17. Wally

    Wally Hailing from Parts Unknown.

    So, the driver will pay a lot and get nothing? Sounds like marriage?
     
  18. hondo

    hondo promoted to mediocrity

    That sounds correct, as in that is how it works, the agreed upon process. Now technically, I believe you may only required to pay an agency or service fee, rather than full dues. However, the amount you would save by that is pretty small (maybe $5/mo.); and you will be throwing up red flags with the company and the union.

    And yes, as a "seasonal" driver, you would not be eligible to "attain seniority" (which means becoming a permanent employee/becoming a member of the union). However, it's a way to get your foot in the door if you want to become a package car driver and circumvent the normal process of having to build seniority by working part-time as a package handler. Unfortunately, there are some areas where the Local Union will start taking deductions for the initiation fee, in addition to the normal dues (and it can be a substantial amount)(I personally disagree with this practice, and I don't believe they do it where I am).

    If you do work the season and pay dues and the initiation fee, at the end of the season you should either get a withdrawal card from the union (that means you won't be working at the union job in the near future, and therefore will no longer owe monthly dues), or try to get a refund of the initiation fee (I have no idea how easy or hard it would be, but I wouldn't be surprised if they make it very difficult).

    It's possible that in your area, if you work enough hours in the season, you might earn health insurance from the union fund for the next quarter. It doesn't work like that where I am, but I believe it does in some areas.
     
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  19. Cementups

    Cementups Box Monkey

    I do :D
     
  20. cosmo1

    cosmo1 Just another internet hooligan.

    You seem to be making a lot of assumptions about things you admit you know nothing about.