Tips and techniques for defending a driver at panel.....

bleedinbrown58

That’s Craptacular
Typical simpleminded response.

Put down that poor excuse for a pizza (way too many toppings) for a moment and answer my question: What part of what Dragon said was untrue?
Excuse me but NO self respecting New Yorker would EVER set foot inside a Pizza Hut. You obviously know nothing about decent pizza...now do you??

Brooklyn.....(Big Arrow Down) would you be caught dead eating Domino's or Pizza Hut??
 

Harry Manback

Robot Extraordinaire
...and by doing so you basically made his point for him...

You ever cast your line out and reeled in a whopper?

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upsbeernut

Sometimes i feel like a nut sometimes i dont
That sounds awfully nick picky. Since theres so much volume all the time and a unorganized DOL, they dont care about all that.
 

Whatbrownwontdoforyou

Well-Known Member
:backingout::backingout::backingout:Lets put it in perspective for those of you who don't get it.

You can be disciplined for not maintaining SPORH after an OJS ride. PERIOD...I stated that in this thread in the beginning. Believe it cause I have used it.

You may think not following the methods is subjective "cause your load changes" wrong answer, proved at the panel...again.

This driver has been suspended for 8 weeks and 3 days. You only work 5 days a week, so at the earliest he would come back mid January. So do you think you can afford to not follow the methods?

Kudo's to the Center Team who put an end to this employee's "I don't have to do what you say cause I am in the Union attitude" remember you work for UPS and not the Union. I hope that the employees in that center or building have had their eyes opened and everyone can get back to the business of delivering packages.

We followed the contract and the panel voted in our favor and now everyone thinks they been sold out by their union. Don't pick and choose which part of the contract you like us to follow everyday (9.5 language..8 hr) and then complain when we use a lock in ride to tighten up them nuts. You are either all in or all out.

I am shocked that only a few people have responded to the outcome of this thread. If it had gone in the Union's favor you guys would have blitzed the internet to beat UPS down. Where are the haters?

Looking forward to a lot more replies on this thread. BRING THE DRAMA!!
There are occasions where ups overreaches on this in my opinion.......for example if a route goes out with 140 stops and 350 pieces and 10 hours work avg on an ojs and ups decides after ojs to dispatch that route with 200 stops and 500 pieces and they try to disipline it won't hold up........but I don't think that's the case here.....I agree with bug we aren't getting the whole story here
 

PASinterference

Yes, I know I'm working late.
There are occasions where ups overreaches on this in my opinion.......for example if a route goes out with 140 stops and 350 pieces and 10 hours work avg on an ojs and ups decides after ojs to dispatch that route with 200 stops and 500 pieces and they try to disipline it won't hold up........but I don't think that's the case here.....I agree with bug we aren't getting the whole story here
Yeah its obvious we are not getting the whole story. Looks like some monkeying from both sides. This stuff is like viagra for management.
 

tourists24

Well-Known Member
:backingout::backingout::backingout:Lets put it in perspective for those of you who don't get it.

You can be disciplined for not maintaining SPORH after an OJS ride. PERIOD...I stated that in this thread in the beginning. Believe it cause I have used it.

You may think not following the methods is subjective "cause your load changes" wrong answer, proved at the panel...again.

This driver has been suspended for 8 weeks and 3 days. You only work 5 days a week, so at the earliest he would come back mid January. So do you think you can afford to not follow the methods?

Kudo's to the Center Team who put an end to this employee's "I don't have to do what you say cause I am in the Union attitude" remember you work for UPS and not the Union. I hope that the employees in that center or building have had their eyes opened and everyone can get back to the business of delivering packages.

We followed the contract and the panel voted in our favor and now everyone thinks they been sold out by their union. Don't pick and choose which part of the contract you like us to follow everyday (9.5 language..8 hr) and then complain when we use a lock in ride to tighten up them nuts. You are either all in or all out.

I am shocked that only a few people have responded to the outcome of this thread. If it had gone in the Union's favor you guys would have blitzed the internet to beat UPS down. Where are the haters?

Looking forward to a lot more replies on this thread. BRING THE DRAMA!!
I've been with UPS for almost 26 years and have seen exactly 1 driver lose his job for not maintaining SPORH. And there have been many many pursued for discipline on it (myself included).So enjoy the one half victory here. 99.9 percent will carry on
 
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