To those who attended their contract meeting

[Anonymous 10]

You obviously don't know 710's pension percentages.
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I just found an article on TDU website from 2011 that says 710 is in the red. So I guess it's 100% now. I call bull.

 

[upsgrunt]

When did I ever say I know everything?? I read it somewhere in the last three to six months. So what's yours funded at smart guy. Do you even know. Is it 76 %. I know there are none funded even close to the ups Ibt pension fund. I care about my fund but since you know your lets have it. Is it 103.6 % like the one I'm in??

I replied, but it must have gotten deleted.
I threw the letter away, but it is over 100%. Is that close enough for you?

710's fund was in the green a year ago.

 

[Anonymous 10]

I replied, but it must have gotten deleted.
I threw the letter away, but it is over 100%. Is that close enough for you?

You are mistaken. I found an article on the bull crap TDU site that says as of 2011 the 710 fund was in the red. It's all better and 100% funded now just two years later. Bull crap.

 

[upsgrunt]

I just found an article on TDU website from 2011 that says 710 is in the red. So I guess it's 100% now. I call bull.

What in God's name are you looking at a TDU website for; especially for truthful information?

 

[upsgrunt]

You are mistaken. I found an article on the bull crap TDU site that says as of 2011 the 710 fund was in the red. It's all better and 100% funded now just two years later. Bull crap.

Like I said, I'm not arguing with someone who thinks they know more than they do.

 

[Anonymous 10]

I googled your fund. I found another that says you are in the red also. My Christian ass forgives you for being wrong. Your fund is in the red. Maybe you should learn about it. Or save more in yiur 401 or whatever you do.

 

[Inthegame]

You guys sound like corporate management pencil pushing bean counters. Sounds like you have given up fighting the good fight. Labor and unions in particular have been taking it on the chin for decades. Yet you two are so willing so sell us short against this corporate behemoth. There is still time to get us a better deal. I bet each of you had to SELL this contract at your respective union meetings. Our guys didnt!! And bravo to them. The went over the changes, made some commentary of whether some were good and some were bad. they were upset over our pters getting pulled out of their UPS plan and thown into a lesser plan. They said Hall sort of blindsided our local on this issue. Local 804 is looking into getting them in our FT Taft Hartly Plan. The part timers in the audience applauded that. Overall ourleaders did NOT endorse hall shortcomings.

And overall your leaders were silent at the two man, as were the new "saviors" from L89. The TA was unanimously endorsed by the leaders present with plenty of opportunity to ask any questions or voice dissent and all that was heard was silence. To now go back to the comfort of a local and claim Hall "blindsided them" is politics, not leadership.
Stink and 407 along with thousands of stewards haven't given up any fight, in fact they do it every day. It's just a real shame to have good union guys like you challenging other good union guys that don't drink the TDU kool-aid. If Paff was our GST we'd all be unemployed, and UPS would be a memory like REA.
Our members are supporting this TA 75+%.

 

[Anonymous 10]

Like I said, I'm not arguing with someone who thinks they know more than they do.

Why because you feel stupid about not knowing your fund was in The red. Ok

 

[Anonymous 10]

Hey realbrown1 what's your fund now so I can discredit your ass also. Ill be waiting.

 

[Anonymous 10]

And overall your leaders were silent at the two man, as were the new "saviors" from L89. The TA was unanimously endorsed by the leaders present with plenty of opportunity to ask any questions or voice dissent and all that was heard was silence. To now go back to the comfort of a local and claim Hall "blindsided them" is politics, not leadership.
Stink and 407 along with thousands of stewards haven't given up any fight, in fact they do it every day. It's just a real shame to have good union guys like you challenging other good union guys that don't drink the TDU kool-aid. If Paff was our GST we'd all be unemployed, and UPS would be a memory like REA.
Our members are supporting this TA 75+%.

Upsgrunt is one of these guys and he hides behind Christianity. I'm a Christian and he blasted me for not living up to his standards. It got deleted.

 

[upsgrunt]

Christianity must be different in Cleveland than where I live.
​Have a great week.

 

[Catatonic]

Christianity must be different in Cleveland than where I live.
​Have a great week.

​Christianity is different for each person.

 

[Anonymous 10]

Christianity must be different in Cleveland than where I live.
​Have a great week.

You called me out. I did some research and found out you were wrong. You don't even have to common curtesy to admit you don't have a clue. You should be ashamed. Where is realbrown1 at.

 

[Anonymous 10]

​Christianity is different for each person.

He's just pissed because he was wrong and to boot his pension is In The red. Christian has nothing to do with is. He was wrong and now he's embarrassed. Preacher tells the truth and it hurts.

 

[upsgrunt]

You called me out. I did some research and found out you were wrong. You don't even have to common curtesy to admit you don't have a clue. You should be ashamed. Where is realbrown1 at.

But I'm not wrong, I'm just waiting for the documentation to show you how much you don't know.
When I'm wrong, I'll be the first to admit it, but it sure won't be you that tells me I don't have a clue.

 

[Anonymous 10]

But I'm not wrong, I'm just waiting for the documentation to show you how much you don't know.
When I'm wrong, I'll be the first to admit it, but it sure won't be you that tells me I don't have a clue.

The 710 pension fund is in the red and you don't even know it. That's sad. I feel bad for you. I might have been wrong on the 74% by a few but not very far off. All pension funds are under funded and yours is in the red. You called me out. Anyone can search the Internet and find it. Oh yea get off your holier than though thrown. You always act like this. I'm a Christian sinner who drinks gambles and doesn't cheat on his wife. I swear cus and I look at porn but I love Jesus and he loves me. Come back with nothing pope Upsgrunt.

 

[Catatonic]

He's just pissed because he was wrong and to boot his pension is In The red. Christian has nothing to do with is. He was wrong and now he's embarrassed. Preacher tells the truth and it hurts.

​Maybe you should change your Avatar title to "Preacher of the Painful Truth".

 

[CaptainObvious]

Hey realbrown1 what's your fund now so I can discredit your ass also. Ill be waiting.

I'm guessing he is in the WCT and received the same letter I did. 90.4% funded.

Edit: As of Jan. 1 2013.... 90%

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

I'm guessing he is in the WCT and received the same letter I did. 90.4% funded.

Lucky you!

 

[Anonymous 10]

I'm guessing he is in the WCT and received the same letter I did. 90.4% funded.

Edit: As of Jan. 1 2013.... 90%

Ill believe that a lot more than Upsgrunt. The WCT is a good fund still but it pays out the highest pensions and this will drag it down just like the rest.