Who should be more upset?

Discussion in 'UPS Partners' started by airops, Apr 17, 2012.

  1. airops

    airops Member

    Which of you are more upset with the pay bands? Those who are over the max and not getting raises or those who are getting a raise? I'm not getting one and I'm not happy about it. But it sure beats the alternative. Knowing that you were underpaid compared to a lot of others.
     
  2. 8up

    8up Member

    well you need to control your hours and get yourself out of there sooner.
     
  3. Xpartner

    Xpartner New Member

    I am affected the same way as airops. I am disgruntled as well. This is the tip of the iceberg. Many good hard working and top achieving management who are not affected by being redlined are also getting screwed via the "new" QPR rules. If you are in good with your boss you get a good raise despite poor performance. The popularity contest has been brought to a new level.
     
  4. UPS1907

    UPS1907 Member

    Just a bad deal..

    Basically raises are given to people who make less $$. They could be new, under performers, or just been screwed, while achievers who have earned raises and make more money get the shaft. Sounds like a great system. My QPR is pure junk now. 8hrs a day out the door. No moving misloads, running air. Nothing. Cya tmrrw. I just document when repercussions start.
     
  5. brownIEman

    brownIEman Active Member

    Re: Just a bad deal..

    I got no raise this year. Not really sure why as I was not ever given a salary review either. I have been around a long time, so I could be too high in my band. Since I had no salary review, I am not sure what band exactly I am in, as it will not be available on UPSers till sometime in June. Could be up now, don't know. I also may have not gotten a raise because of the new minimum QPR score required to get any raise. Apparently that little gem was not communicated well to my division and most of us had stretch goals, to say the least, on our QPRs. I was told about 30 full time and part time management in this division got no raise. Maybe I will get a piece of it back in a higher dividend from all the cost savings...

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    Bears repeating - bunch a jack holes.
     
  6. Sleeve_meet_Heart

    Sleeve_meet_Heart making the unreadable unreadabler

    Bears...lol

    This is who is "high pay band" and "leading" the company...;)
     
  7. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt You can call me Chappy Staff Member

    "Bears repeating" actually has nothing to do with the animal. Bear in this phrase means "able to support, carry, or hold" or in this case "Warrants".

    Surely you did not think it should be Bares repeating. :eggonface:

    That sounds like something Klein would comeback with! LOL
     
  8. Mr Jingles

    Mr Jingles Rat out of a cage

    Re: Just a bad deal..

    In a couple of years UPS will get it's payback for all this. To some extent, they already have.

    I was actively looking to leave UPS in 2008 and luckily I couldn't get a better job offer.

    I'll start looking again next year and hopefully in 2014, I'll be gone.

    It's not so much that UPS is a terrible place to work but the old-timers here are so disgruntled.
    It's an interesting mix. Some of the old-timers work 14 hours a day and the others are working 9 and out and not working that hard when they are here.
    I can remember when I first came here, they all worked long hours and were very loyal to Brown.
    Even the hard workers are sour on UPS but it appears old habits die hard.
    They all seem trapped ... that is why I am getting out of here first chance I get.
     
  9. UPS1907

    UPS1907 Member

    In a couple of years UPS will get it's payback for all this. To some extent, they already have.

    I was actively looking to leave UPS in 2008 and luckily I couldn't get a better job offer.

    I'll start looking again next year and hopefully in 2014, I'll be gone.

    It's not so much that UPS is a terrible place to work but the old-timers here are so disgruntled.
    It's an interesting mix. Some of the old-timers work 14 hours a day and the others are working 9 and out and not working that hard when they are here.
    I can remember when I first came here, they all worked long hours and were very loyal to Brown.
    Even the hard workers are sour on UPS but it appears old habits die hard.
    They all seem trapped ... that is why I am getting out of here first chance I get.[/QUOTE]

    In time, after the last of the current brown bloods retire, it will all be 9 hrs and out. Either that or a vitual turnstile of employee turnover. That will be great for business.
     
  10. Sleeve_meet_Heart

    Sleeve_meet_Heart making the unreadable unreadabler

    After googling it (without your assistance), because I doubted myself, it is "bear in mind". ;) I stand corrected.
     
  11. Sleeve_meet_Heart

    Sleeve_meet_Heart making the unreadable unreadabler

    And P.S. Hoax, to "bare" can also mean to reveal, or open to view and is a flexible word, as well.
     
  12. sosocal

    sosocal New Member

    compensation administration is muddy at best in any organization - There will always be politics, subjectivity and inequality... I am not as concerned about the flaws in the new band-based system as I am the part it plays in the overall direction of the company. However, I cannot tell you how much I heard the phrase "without the possibility of a raise my only incentive is not to get fired." or something of that ilk. If you think about it there is no flaw to that logic....I find that unfortunate....But I will say this, although people are NOT working near the hours they used to or puting in the effort they once did...I do not see results any worse...conversely I see them getting better. Maybe we were fooling ourselves all those years....
     
  13. curiousbrain

    curiousbrain Well-Known Member

    Yet.

    While some of you may work shorter hours, the slack is picked up by punting it all down to us lowly fellows. Not all, obviously, as there is a certain "line" that cannot be crossed; but, certainly a lot of it.
     
  14. UPS1907

    UPS1907 Member

    Tell the Division Mgr 's that.
     
  15. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt You can call me Chappy Staff Member

    Thanks for being there when we needed you.
     
  16. curiousbrain

    curiousbrain Well-Known Member

    When we're not, maybe you won't get your raise. Oh, wait ...
     
  17. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt You can call me Chappy Staff Member

    LOL ... hit the nail on the head!
     
  18. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt You can call me Chappy Staff Member

    The klein comparison was the funniest thing! LOL

    That has to hurt! :beersmiley: