2019 Peak

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by Wyoming, Oct 21, 2019.

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  1. BrownMonk

    BrownMonk Old fart Package Car Driver

    Although the next sentence after the highlighted one is completely contrary to the highlighted one, let's see what they do when they need people, and who is willing to get fired to act as a guinea pig at an arbitration.

    Art 26 Sec 5
    Section 5. DOT Hours of Service The Company shall not change the DOT sixty (60) hours in seven (7) days to the seventy (70) hours in eight (8) days rule for package drivers except at Peak. With prior approval of the Company’s President of Labor Relations and the Teamster’s Package Division Director, the DOT standard may also be changed if required due to Acts of God or emergencies creating service disruptions. When the Company changes the sixty (60) hour rule it shall first solicit volunteers to work in excess of sixty (60) hours from all package car - 84 - Article 26 drivers in the center. If sufficient volunteers cannot be obtained to cover the over sixty (60) work hours, the Company will first force seasonal package car drivers, non-seniority package car drivers, part-time cover driver classifications and, then Article 22.4(b) drivers. Seniority package car drivers will only be forced after exhausting the seasonal, non-probationary drivers force process, part-time cover driver classifications and Article 22.4(b) drivers. No regular package car driver red circled under Article 22.4(b) will be forced to work on a day off and exceed sixty (60) hours unless he has a full eight (8) hours of duty available. Any regular or Article 22.4 package car driver who volunteers or is forced to work over sixty (60) hours in a week pursuant to this paragraph will be compensated at double-time for those hours. This paragraph supersedes any provision in any Supplement, Rider or Addendum which addresses this subject. This Section is not intended to give the Company the right to force seniority package car drivers to work on a weekend unless permitted by the applicable Supplement, Rider or Addendum.
     
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  2. WTFm8

    WTFm8 Active Member

    Except when they need more air drivers under Art40.
     
  3. Poop Head

    Poop Head Lovin' every minute of it!

    Well, who cares about those guys, amiright??
     
  4. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    Was that part of the new contract? Before it was always Jan 1
     
  5. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    You mean 9.5 or helpers?
     
  6. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt

  7. zubenelgenubi

    zubenelgenubi Well-Known Member

    The paragraph is only talking about forcing to work over 60 hours and getting double time for doing so, not forcing to work weekends. So no contradiction.
     
  8. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

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  9. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    9.5. I know seasonals have been til Jan 15. But @Rack em said the 9.5 list doesn’t start back up til Jan 15.
     
  10. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    Yeah 9.5 till jan 15th is new this contract.

    The western region is Oct 1st to Dec 31st but our rider is Oct 15 to Jan 15th for helpers. That's why I thought you could be asking about helpers.
     
  11. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    I mean there was enough bad I think I just forgot about that. But I do remember our president telling us his top priority a few contracts back was getting 9.5 until thanksgiving for the central since they can use helpers and seasonals all of November. Now a
    Contract or 2 longer and we’ve given them an extra 2 weeks of OT abuse. Lol
     
  12. BrownMonk

    BrownMonk Old fart Package Car Driver

    Could be but the current DOT hours of service would only allow 60 in 5 days so I don't think so. They have already started talking about sat & sun.
     
  13. zubenelgenubi

    zubenelgenubi Well-Known Member

    It's 60 in 7 days. This article sets the limits for how when and why the company can use the 70 hour rule and force drivers to work more than 60. The disclaimer at the end about weekends does not contradict the rest of the article.
     
  14. Poop Head

    Poop Head Lovin' every minute of it!

    Oct 15 - Jan 15th for helpers!?
     
  15. They would be a good part time job for @Future
     
  16. vvv

    vvv Active Member

    Ditto!!
     
  17. vvv

    vvv Active Member

    I don't have to worry about that nonsense.

    Christ, my sups are happy to have me take a couple days off a week. They won't come knocking on my door begging me to work a weekend even if desperate.
     
  18. What'dyabringmetoday???

    What'dyabringmetoday??? Well-Known Member

    It will be an amazing peak. Your "elected leaders" have taken every possible step to ensure that UPS can contract out as much work as possible. Lol.
     
  19. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt


    That's a company problem.... not a Union one.
     
  20. Justaloader

    Justaloader Member

    I have to wonder if the "normal" procedure will still continue. What I mean by that - at my hub, us twilight guys.....we work from 6:15 to 10:00, and then they send us home. At that point, the sups take over and finish loading the trailers (clearing the belts), handling / loading irregs, etc. I'm still relatively new (started here in August) - so, can someone enlighten me as to why they are so determined to cut the loaders at 10 pm? Is overtime during non-peak season a taboo or something? To add to that - is this "routine" something to point out to the shop steward, in the event he isn't aware it's occurring? (Not sure how he wouldn't know about it....all he has to do is take a walk through the building after 10pm and see all of the folks in the black ups shirts loading trailers, etc).
     
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