22.3 Outside/Inside pay progression

[Up In Smoke]

I wish they were but payroll has a different idea. Other drivers told me the pay is legit but they didn't know how it progressed. Like will I be making 18 and change in a couple years or mid 20's. Every person i talk to has a different answer.

22.3 is spelled out quite clearly in the master, but is this a new position??

 

[542thruNthru]

I will say all the combo jobs in my area that do air are paid 2 different rates.

 

[JohnJR]

You can either take it how they give it to you, or you can file. Choose.

I'm gonna try it, if I go broke in 30 days I guess it's back to misery

 

[Up In Smoke]

Guys he's probably being paid 2 different wages because of the language in Article 40.
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I don't disagree, but he clearly said a 22.3 bid position. Two completely different bids and i'm not sure a RPCD could even bid back into an air position without an exception for medical or FMLA

 

[JohnJR]

I will say all the combo jobs in my area that do air are paid 2 different rates.

If that 16, 17,18, 21, top is for me at least there is a light at the end of the tunnel. Not sure why they told me 16.95 though

 

[542thruNthru]

I'm gonna try it, if I go broke in 30 days I guess it's back to misery

Have you spoken with your BA? You should get top rate for your inside position.

 

[542thruNthru]

I don't disagree, but he clearly said a 22.3 bid position. Two completely different bids and i'm not sure a RPCD could even bid back into an air position without an exception for medical or FMLA

We have 22.3 position that include air driving out here.

 

[PT Car Washer]

I don't disagree, but he clearly said a 22.3 bid position. Two completely different bids and i'm not sure a RPCD could even bid back into an air position without an exception for medical or FMLA

We have had several package car drivers bid into a 22.3 job where half was air driver. Two different pay rates and both were less then top driver rate. A lot less.

 

[JohnJR]

Have you spoken with your BA? You should get top rate for your inside position.

What's BA? I spoke to HR, union, inside sup, 22.3 guys....all different

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

I will say all the combo jobs in my area that do air are paid 2 different rates.

I guess I never asked any, but the 22.3 language always seemed pretty clear to me. Huh, learn something new err-day.

 

[542thruNthru]

What's BA? I spoke to HR, union, inside sup, 22.3 guys....all different

Call your local and ask to speak with the business agent that represent you.

 

[JohnJR]

We have had several package car drivers bid into a 22.3 job where half was air driver. Two different pay rates and both were less then top driver rate. A lot less.

Yes, that is me

 

[JohnJR]

Call your local and ask to speak with the business agent that represent you.

Will do. First I was told 28 and then is dropped to 16.95

 

[Up In Smoke]

We have had several package car drivers bid into a 22.3 job where half was air driver. Two different pay rates and both were less then top driver rate. A lot less.

Same here, but the rate stays the same for entire shift. I believe the 22.3 positions pay 80% of RPCD and receive annual raises equal to a RPCD.

 

[PT Car Washer]

Same here, but the rate stays the same for entire shift. I believe the 22.3 positions pay 80% of RPCD and receive annual raises equal to a RPCD.

Air drivers fall under Art 40 including Art 22.3 Air driver/car washer.

 

[Up In Smoke]

Air drivers fall under Art 40 including Art 22.3 Air driver/car washer.

I'm going to disagree, 22.3 positions were created to stop the employer from using part time employees for more than 32 hours and not giving full time benefits. Strike 1997. A 22.3 employee has a classification of their own, with separate pay schedules and vacation schedules. I'm not familiar with air combo jobs.

 

[PT Car Washer]

I'm going to disagree, 22.3 positions were created to stop the employer from using part time employees for more than 32 hours and not giving full time benefits. Strike 1997. A 22.3 employee has a classification of their own, with separate pay schedules and vacation schedules. I'm not familiar with air combo jobs.

We have a bunch of preload/air driver jobs. Also a few porter/PM air driver jobs. They all have two different pay rates. All other 22.3 jobs have only one pay rate.

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

I'm going to disagree, 22.3 positions were created to stop the employer from using part time employees for more than 32 hours and not giving full time benefits. Strike 1997. A 22.3 employee has a classification of their own, with separate pay schedules and vacation schedules. I'm not familiar with air combo jobs.

We have a bunch of preload/air driver jobs. Also a few porter/PM air driver jobs. They all have two different pay rates. All other 22.3 jobs have only one pay rate.

Ok, either way, shouldn't op be at top rate of both 22.3 and air? Op has already completed a FT wage progression.

 

[542thruNthru]

Ok, either way, shouldn't op be at top rate of both 22.3 and air? Op has already completed a FT wage progression. View attachment 301059

You're correct but you're screen shot is of FT driver language. He's FT inside next one down.

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

You're correct but you're screen shot is of FT driver language. He's FT inside next one down.
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I know, but I went to that because it specifically discussed "transferring" between FT jobs, however that can be interpreted on any given Thursday. Thx man.