22.4 positions

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by BrownMonk, Aug 23, 2019.

  1. But but nobody could spare 30 seconds to vote....
     
  2. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt


    They couldn't have made it any easier.


    How many of these people that want to blame the Union, spent their own personal

    time attending the contract proposal, or contract review meetings ?

    Let alone.... spent their own personal time to discuss it with their fellow members ?
     
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  3. Staydryitsraining

    Staydryitsraining Active Member

    The union stopped caring about part time back in 70s 80s when they decided to take pt money and give it to ft. The union knows pt is a revolving door that isnt their focus. Pters make up over 50% of members. They if acted could shape a contract.
     
  4. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt


    Part-time jobs were never meant to be lifetime jobs.


    But, in the instance that choice was made.... you were rewarded with annual raises,

    free health care, and a pension. What other company offers a part-time pension plan ?


    Then low and behold.... the creation of the 22.3 jobs.

    Not everyone is cutout to be a driver.
     
  5. Staydryitsraining

    Staydryitsraining Active Member

    Have any 22.3 jobs been added in the past 8 years besides maybe the west coast, mid Atlantic or Louisville?
     
  6. Staydryitsraining

    Staydryitsraining Active Member

    The company had no choice. No one would work as a pter here for anything less.
     
  7. It's certainly easy enough to vote. They hold the cards.
     
  8. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt


    The majority of the 22.3 jobs have always been placed in the larger buildings

    that have such a high turn-over, the operation couldn't function without them.


    In outlying smaller centers (where the cost of living is relatively cheaper) there's

    no real need for them, as they don't have the turn-over problems.
     
  9. Rick Ross

    Rick Ross I'm into distribution!!

    Which side do you think the union should be on, the 55% who didn't vote or the 45% who did? It appears to me the union is protecting the lazy, uninformed members from having a strike forced on them by disregarding the votes of membership that took the time to be informed and vote.

    It was also deceptive of the union to use our dues to mail all the vote Yes propaganda while failing to mention our No votes wouldn't count unless a percentage of votes were cast.
     
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  10. burrheadd

    burrheadd KING Of GIFS

    You need some new material
     
  11. eats packages

    eats packages Tetris Master

    So if you go from PT to 22.4 now does the seasonal period still apply?
    It is supposedly a bid won.
     
  12. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    You still have to qualify. Unless you've already qualified as a PT cover driver or something.
     
  13. Can't wait to see what set if BS rules they try to make up...
     
  14. eats packages

    eats packages Tetris Master

    Sure, I just wanted to know if seasonal was restricted only to outside hires or if they could toss me in the heap with them. I do not want to qualify and then work any number of days without accruing days towards my 30. The language for this seems vague?
     
  15. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    It should be just the same qualifying rules as a RPCD. But I guess that might be different everywhere being as they are a Combo.
     
  16. eats packages

    eats packages Tetris Master

    Regional suppliment specifically states that qualification is the same.
     
  17. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    If you have a DOT card and are trying to qualify. They will use you during peak if needed. So unless you want to be skipped over and wait for the next one. It may be something you have to put up with.
     
  18. eats packages

    eats packages Tetris Master

    Ah hell, ok. Bastards did not award any bids for the past 9 months. Guess it will be fun to be part of quite a large pool of new hires. Means they won't have the time to be anal about everything.
     
  19. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    I'm not in your area so I'd recommend asking a Steward or BA to make sure.

    Here we have no free period.
     
  20. Well you do know who we work for....