22.4 positions

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by BrownMonk, Aug 23, 2019.

  1. UnconTROLLed

    UnconTROLLed perfection

    If you signed a FT bid already, (here) the bids here all come with a stamped start/move date and the company has 45 days iirc, from that date, to move you into the bid and begin. I am saying that even if there is a free period (oct.-Jan 15th), your bid sheet date trumps if they hold you out until the free period.
    Now that is supplemental so ymmv
  2. no_map_needed

    no_map_needed Knowledge is key, Experience is power.

    My take on this:

    RPCD Utility/Cover Full time whatever you want to call it is what 22.4s are supposed to replace. So you 22.4s getting promoted quickly to RPCD and getting a route should be thanking the badass mother RPCDs that aren't bidding on routes. Centers have to promote to fill the routes. If all of the remaining RPCD bid on routes the 22.4s would just be stuck there until someone retires or goes to feeder.
  3. A RPCD would not bid a 22.4 route.
  4. no_map_needed

    no_map_needed Knowledge is key, Experience is power.

    What do you mean? I might be confusing you and myself lol.
  5. A regular package car driver would not bid a 22.4 job. He would lose his Monday through Friday spot, no 9.5 guarantee and probably no raise for at least 5+ years

    That's a pass from me.
  6. no_map_needed

    no_map_needed Knowledge is key, Experience is power.

    Naw I'm not saying that. I only mean 22.4s being promoted to RPCD not the other way around. That would be ridiculous lol.
  7. It will be a very long time before that happens
  8. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    With the way regular delivery drivers are either bidding into Feeders or retiring, or degrading to a 22.3 job, maybe not that long.
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  9. Mr. Marshall

    Mr. Marshall Member

    In our building the center manager told me that the lowest 20 drivers would be 22.4's and you would automatically graduate to a rpcd when you moved into the top 200. It doesn't seem quite right contractually but sort of fair.
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  10. Rack em

    Rack em First to worst!

    Not contractually right at all. Your center manager is talking out of his ass and hoping those young drivers are dumb enough to believe him.
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  11. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member


    If you are a RPCD they can't change you to a 22.4 at will. The misinformation about this position is absolutely bat :censored2: crazy!
  12. Blazian81

    Blazian81 Member

    Heard we had a class of 6 for 22.4 drivers here in Charlotte, and when they heard that they was working all weekends, and getting paid less they all quite the class, from what i was told from a fellow driver. smh
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  13. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    I hate when they all quite!...
  14. Rick Ross

    Rick Ross I'm into distribution!!

    What's that new super Amazon building gonna do for your feeders. They gonna add a bunch?
  15. eats packages

    eats packages I have depth perception issues

    I am starting a packet for 22.4.
    Here is a fun thing you can do: Go on google maps and look at all the terrible personal vehicle parking jobs at your local intergrad building. I'm just going to nose in :censored2: the establishment!
  16. eats packages

    eats packages I have depth perception issues

    Steward is investigating some of my other bids to see if they can't find a way to get me into a regular driver position. The Seniority gap is odd but I am only dovetailed to the regular list as it was signed late.
  17. Faceplanted

    Faceplanted Well-Known Member

    Here it is again. Will your next post mention tdu?
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  18. clean hairy

    clean hairy Well-Known Member

    Try pulling that on Shaq when he was playing.
    "Shaq, everyone else can make 60% free throws, why are you so lazy you don't do it?"
    Imagine what would have happened to a team mate who might have said that to him!
    As if Shaq could make 4 out 10 free throws for $1 mil.
  19. bigmistake

    bigmistake Member

    In my building grievances flew this week. Most were for not honoring seniority and past practice. They're using the list the list posted in January for those looking for RCPD positions. The 22-4 positions didn't exist in January, how can they hire off that list. Also, they're not hybrid. The company intends to use them to fulfill routes. Total BS.
  20. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    The union admitted there was nothing to hold the company to it being a hybrid position. It’s a ft driver with no OT protection for cheaper
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