22.4 positions

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by BrownMonk, Aug 23, 2019.

  1. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    Get behind the wheel and turn on the car.
     
  2. DOT hours.....

    Thanks Dave ..
     
  3. The 22.4 rate should be higher the helper rate, at least it is in my area
     
  4. Staydryitsraining

    Staydryitsraining Active Member

    I just read through all these pages. It really seems like the same person is on multiple accounts. A 22.4 cant drive unless every rcpd is on road or vacation. Unless your center was running low on drivers to begin with it's very unlikely a 22.4 will drive unless its summer (vacations) or peak when routes are added. My center has almost 100 drivers and only runs around 80 routes a day. Alot of the last round of rcpd hiring still arent even driving, meaning these 22.4s probably wont hit the road for a while. Now unless your in one of those make believe places where everything that can be :censored2:ed is :censored2:ed the sky isnt falling. If a building or area is growing so will rcpd routes. In order to hire more 22.4s more rcpd routes have to be added. I'm willing to bet most of the sky is falling comments are comming from guys who really have no clue what's actually going on and more I heard some :censored2: and I'm going to regurgitate it. I just dont see 22.4s driving every week except the weekends besides summer and peak. But that's just my two rational cents.
     
  5. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    I hope @browned out doesn't read this. :)

    Also we have 22.4s working everyday. Though we are a different type of area.
     
  6. Staydryitsraining

    Staydryitsraining Active Member

    I'm in one of the most fastest growing parts of the country. They dont run lean here either. If your routes to rcpd number is close than the 22.4s will be on road outside of vacations and peak. Our center manager said it's one of the dumbest things the company has ever done. But who knows time will tell. If I had to guess the company will kill the 22.4 next contract. There also is no 6 to 1 spot for outside hire on 22.4s at least here.
     
  7. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    You have in your supplmental language that the company can not hire 22.4s off the street? Mind if I ask what region/supplment you're under?
     
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  8. Staydryitsraining

    Staydryitsraining Active Member

    A supervisor waiting to go driving told me that ups isnt letting supervisors take 22.4 jobs. Outside hires yes but when they put the list up it was 7 pages filled
     
  9. Staydryitsraining

    Staydryitsraining Active Member

    Your in sd correct? The last time I checked the wait for Saturday air was 3 years and rcpd was 11.
     
  10. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    Oh ok. Sounds like they just don't want to give that sup the position.
     
  11. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    You're correct. Our 22.4s are PT Cover Drivers that have been "promoted" to a FT 22.4 position.
     
  12. Staydryitsraining

    Staydryitsraining Active Member

    Our tcds were promoted to 22.4. But again we have laid off rcpds so the 22.4s arent driving every day here for a long time.
     
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  13. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    In our rider 22.4s can do nothing but drive unless agreed upon by the local to do inside work.
     
  14. Staydryitsraining

    Staydryitsraining Active Member

    Here 22.4s can only be on road if every rcpd is on road or on vacation. BA was here shutting down training the 22.4s because rcpds werent driving. Its comical.
     
  15. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    Who's going to work Saturdays soon?
     
  16. Staydryitsraining

    Staydryitsraining Active Member

    22.4s will be driving on Saturdays. But they arent hiring enough 22.4s to cover all the work because there already isnt enough work to keep rcpds on road. In my opinion here anyway if I was pt I would sign up for a 22.4 spot. Drive one day and get the tcd rate all week.
     
  17. Rick Ross

    Rick Ross I'm into distribution!!

    The union is, is that not a prerequisite to bidding a RPCD job? We all know a RPCD job will never make it to part-time employees as long as 22.4 drivers are working in that building.

    Part-time employees had their potential career paths completely changed with the unions blessings. I'm sure there were thousands of Teamsters waiting for their chance to become RPCD's, the Teamsters negotiated better 4 year progression wages, but that was a moot point because they are forcing most of these employees to take a lessor bid to be eligible to bid for the top pay positions.

    The Teamsters leadership could have a least had the decency to implement their two tiered wages like the UAW did. They only screwed over new employees, not their current membership.
     
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  18. clipperman

    clipperman Member

    This doesn’t seem right,a 15 year PT employee here would be able to bid on an RPCD opening and be awarded the bid over a 10 year 22.4 because of center seniority,no? Unless previous delivery experience is now a prerequisite to bid an RPCD position
     
  19. Not here. Full time seniority Trump's part time.
     
  20. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt


    If you want to blame anyone....

    blame the 55% of the members that were too lazy to vote.
     
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