kingOFchester
Well-Known Member
friend) because they don't know any better. UPS promises them a pot of gold on the other side. Seen a few p/t loaders go into p/t sup because they are told that they will go full time faster and make more money.
it is true. Center manager and a full-time sup were fired today, 2 part-time sups fired last week. 2 full-time sups had the day off today but word has it that they will be fired when they return next week. Division manager was in my center when i got in. was in office with my center manager looking over center numbers. looks like they are checking the other centers also. more terminations may be coming.
Dats a beautiful thing. Make sure you let em know Taco bell is hiring. They might be able to get jobs there.it is true. Center manager and a full-time sup were fired today, 2 part-time sups fired last week. 2 full-time sups had the day off today but word has it that they will be fired when they return next week. Division manager was in my center when i got in. was in office with my center manager looking over center numbers. looks like they are checking the other centers also. more terminations may be coming.
Mutiple choice:
a) to make a difference
b) to do something different
c) to get out of "their" package car
d) relative impunity to any wrongdoing
e) to be a leader by example
I pick C
We've had similar things happen around here lately. Most drivers contacted LP.And the way these guys were caught was that several drivers/PTers noticed their checks were short on hours worked? What did they do next? You would then call the "integrity" hotline? Maybe a lot more of this is happening; we just don't track our hours that closely. The pressure these management types are under! Why would anyone go into management these days.
One of our loaders has fallen for this, as well. I asked him why, and he said it was because there were like 20 people ahead of him to go driving. I said yeah, but if you cross out the ones that don't want to drive, then the ones that aren't fit or won't pass the class, you'll be way closer than you thought. He said, but they're gonna help me pay for school. I ended the conversation there, because the way he was reasoning, he sounded like he had the makings of a "good" supe.friend) because they don't know any better. UPS promises them a pot of gold on the other side. Seen a few p/t loaders go into p/t sup because they are told that they will go full time faster and make more money.
we? i keep a note-pad in my backpack and every day i punch out i write down the SW, lunch, FW and any other unusual codes (safety meeting etc) i do this infront of the oms and whoever else is in there.we just don't track our hours that closely.
I was waiting for some more information before I jumped on this full throttle. I know the center manager that was terminated. We were both part time together and worked side by side for almost 5 years during that time. He was a great kid, hard worker and a good friend back then.
He was sent to my center about 2 years ago as an on car ups out of IE. he was there about 6 weeks and then was moved, I have not heard from him since.
Now up to about a year ago we were in North ILL until we switched to metro. And what a welcome that switch was! The problem has to lie with the management team of course but in North they do not care how they obtain their numbers just as long as they do.
If the center team was fired then so should the district manager and his guys. They are the most dishonest management team out there. What do they expect, they call you and tell you that you have to hit these numbers no matter what so you cheat. Now i'm not condoning these actions but I can see how and why it happens. And its not the center teams fault!!!
They use fear/scare tactics on the employees and even their sups to gain what they need. Their initials are K.H and C.S, look it up corporate, because instead of firing every center management team in North ill you should know that they are being told to do this from up above. You want to make a point? Cut the snakes head off not the tail!
Red,
I agree with you that if a district or division manager says that you have to hit numbers no matter what and also says "I don't care how", they are promoting dishonestly.
P-Man
Just hope Wall Street doesn't figure it out (WorldComm)
My point above is this -
When the numbers are fudged, on any level..... When the numbers are mandated from above, reach them NO MATTER WHAT....
Those numbers become meaningless to anyone.
It is not UPS specific