Air drivers delivering ground

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by MenInBrown, Jul 10, 2019.

  1. MenInBrown

    MenInBrown Well-Known Member

    What article do I file under for air drivers delivering ground?
  2. Boston25

    Boston25 Active Member

    For air drivers not getting paid ground rate?
  3. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    Art 40?
  4. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

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  5. WTFm8

    WTFm8 Active Member

    Also file if you’re a ground driver to be paid their hours. If nobody higher seniority files, and everybody qualified was on the road, you get the $$$.
  6. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    Good luck with that. The company has to use all qualified Union members.
  7. WTFm8

    WTFm8 Active Member

    Recently discussed on one of the FB pages. You’re stealing hours working out of classification. Company should create/hire more in those positions. Company needs to maintain adequate staffing or be ‘penalized’ in form of grievance payment to give them an incentive.


  8. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    Must be unique to your building as air drivers have been used to deliver or pick up ground for 20 years, after exhausting all other means.
  9. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt

    It's supposed to be on an exception basis.... or like an act of God.
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  10. oldngray

    oldngray nowhere special

  11. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    Which is how it started out. But once UPS local managers figured out how much more flexibility it gave their operations, it mushroomed. At least at my building. Maybe if FT delivery drivers would show up and do their jobs there would not be so much demand for PT air drivers.
  12. lolbr

    lolbr Active Member

    Our hub has a bad habit of running ground with air drivers, then only paying them ground rate for the time running ground. The air driver could put in a 13 hour day, and only make ground rate on 4 hours unless they file. (Central Region)
  13. Methods Man

    Methods Man Member

    It’s a double edged sword because as soon as they file I bet management won’t let them run any ground and not get paid any bonus at all
  14. burrheadd

    burrheadd KING Of GIFS

    Somebody’s got to do it they aren’t going to deliver themselves
  15. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    My building has no problem paying air drivers top rate when delivering ground packages. Some days the PDS will throw some ground work on just to keep the PT air drivers from quitting. Especially the ones at starting rate who do a good job.
  16. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt

    The only problem with that....

    Is the company isn't paying full-time pension contributions.

    @WTFm8 if this is the person I'm thinking of.... he is a BrownCafe member also.

    (and cleans up on this)
  17. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    Or FT vacations or FT Holiday pay.
  18. derrick

    derrick Member

    i have a case with them now about it they owe me over 10K
  19. Article 3

    Article 3 Guest

    They only got heard at the panel because he threatened both sides with labor board charges after they were tabled for two years.

    That's the other problem.
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  20. Article 3

    Article 3 Guest

    Your optimistic emoji doesn't change the facts @BigUnionGuy .

    It's amazing how truth gets the smoke treatment on here.

    Heard locally after being filed for two years, deadlocked to the panel, refered back twice, back to the panel and put on committee hold for another 18 months.

    Filed charges, was in the process to amended them and finally got paid for about half of them.

    So let's tell the truth. The system works for some but many give up or never file because of these games.