oldngray
nowhere special
UPS can't admit they are watching. Doesn't mean they aren't.
Anyone seen these package car cameras yet?
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542thruNthru
Well-Known Member
Oh I make sure to play on my phone each time in plain view of the in cab camera. I dare them to come after me for stealing time from a in cab video.
542thruNthru
Well-Known Member
My point is they can watch me all they want. Nothing they can do about it unless they come out and observe me.
Wally
BrownCafe Innovator & King of Puns
Lol, you buying that? The union should shut it down now. Get everything in writing, then put the units in.
What is the purpose of installing these units?
You know who we work for
That's all I'm saying
allahuakbar
She/Her
The purpose is if you crash everything will be used against you. Other than that they probably don’t watch.
542thruNthru
Well-Known Member
Discipline and technology is already in our contract.
oldngray
nowhere special
It just means they can't discipline you just from technology (although they do it anyway). Not hard for them to go and watch you in person if they see something to confront you with.
Wally
BrownCafe Innovator & King of Puns
You crash now and they know everything. That cannot be the main reason?
542thruNthru
Well-Known Member
They can discipline you. They can not discharge you.
You're right it's not hard but they still have to do it and honestly they don't need a camera to be able to catch us anyways.
Don't get me wrong I'm not saying cameras are harmless. I'm just saying being scared of what they may see on them is a fear ups wants us to have.
I don't play on my phone at every stop and if I do I'm in the back where the camera can see but no one else can. So let them come out and watch. They would have to follow me all day and jump in the cab in time to see me. They can't just show me a picture and say "see the camera told us your on your phone in the back."
oldngray
nowhere special
Next step will be a camera in the cargo area too
Poop Head
Judge me.
Body cams
35years
Gravy route
They said the gps was turned off....for years.
BS
Then they said it was on, but couldn't track us in real time.
BS
Then they said it would not be used for discipline.
BS
We have seen this play out before. They will use the footage for discharging drivers when paired with other evidence such as a crash.
Put an end to it now. It all needs to be spelled out completely.
No camera facing the driver. No body cams. No cameras in the package area. No vehicle camera footage can be used for discipline or discharge period.
Clear and unambiguous.
BS
Then they said it was on, but couldn't track us in real time.
BS
Then they said it would not be used for discipline.
BS
We have seen this play out before. They will use the footage for discharging drivers when paired with other evidence such as a crash.
Put an end to it now. It all needs to be spelled out completely.
No camera facing the driver. No body cams. No cameras in the package area. No vehicle camera footage can be used for discipline or discharge period.
Clear and unambiguous.
Wally
BrownCafe Innovator & King of Puns
The union should generate some reports. Call distributors, do some undercover research, etc. Find out exactly why the company is investing in these units.
My feeling is, the selling point has nothing to do with safety, but rather compliance, that is production.
Wally
BrownCafe Innovator & King of Puns
Some of the first things you see.Real-time GPS Fleet
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Help your drivers stick to exact routes and hours by setting alerts when vehicles enter restricted areas or operate beyond set times.VEHICLE/EQUIPMENT MONITORING
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Wally
BrownCafe Innovator & King of Puns
I guarantee you, the selling point is production and has nothing to do with protecting the driver. If they cared about safety, they would have a/c in the cars and heated mirrors, not cameras.
Over70irregs
Well-Known Member
Tell them to pull over, Shift to park, four way flashers, fold in mirrors, set an orange cone, then………… take a sip of water or call the center for arbitrary stuff. Rinse then repeat.
Wally
BrownCafe Innovator & King of Puns
...maximize service while saving time and money.
Over70irregs
Well-Known Member
Meanwhile NDA is (late?) and we start at 9AM. Camera will not save you time. It will cost you.
