Attn: Scabs and would-be scabs

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by Trailer monkey, Oct 14, 2018.

  1. What makes you think you are entitled to ANYTHING in the union contract?
     
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  2. wide load

    wide load Starting wage is a waste of time.

    I hear what you’re saying. I agree. The problem with the RTW laws is that they are completely unfair. I’ve always said that in order to deal with RTW, the union needs to litigate their own terms. Like zero representation and zero bargaining for these Scabs/RTW/Janus pieces of trash.
     
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  3. Time for change

    Time for change Active Member

    You mean the $300 show up to work bonus?
     
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  4. Time for change

    Time for change Active Member

    Or you mean the non competitive starting pay? They wouldn’t be entitled to that?
     
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  5. Time for change

    Time for change Active Member

    I’m confused though, are you talking what they would be entitled to by law?
     
  6. Time for change

    Time for change Active Member

    Maybe you mean they wouldn’t be entitled to being called skilled and not getting paid the $1 an hour? Or maybe the 4 year seniority scab wouldn’t be entitled to make the same as a new hire?
     
  7. Brown287

    Brown287 Im not the Mail Man!

    Problem is that as a 25 year pro union member even I can see that their propaganda has ran its course. With the advent of social media, information is even more accessible to us. We can quickly fact check and compare contracts and communicate with one another over what we do and don’t have.

    The union needs to produce.....bottom line they are a service that we pay for. They’re not a charity organization volunteering their time for us and as a dues paying customer I have the right to demand more and if their solicitation doesn’t meet my expectations then i(we) have the legal right to hold them accountable.
     
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  8. By law they
    Nothing, they should all be fired or not hired at all
     
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  9. Staydryitsraining

    Staydryitsraining Active Member

    Nothing will change with Hoffa. Look to the next prez for change if anything happens at all. Only way to not let the rtw movement kill the union is for the union to implement a 2 road contract. One road is sign up pay dues get the benefits, road 2 is you get nothing and pay nothing. Keep your bla bla to yourself it's the only way.
     
  10. Milly

    Milly Member

    Right to not represent
     
  11. wide load

    wide load Starting wage is a waste of time.

    Because the issue comes in when your representatives must take time away from members to deal with thieves that don’t want to pay for services. They are essentially going through a fast food window, grabbing their food and screwing before they pay.
     
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  12. Milly

    Milly Member

    The right to freeloading and eroding everything that has to do with the labor movement.
     
  13. Sickofit

    Sickofit watching the show

    Have you seen this on YouTube?
    Was it in San Francisco or Kentucky?
     
  14. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

  15. iruhnman630

    iruhnman630 Well-Known Member

    The union is a third party that provides a service.

    RTW laws recognize it as such.

    If someone feels they are better off without the services of that third party, so be it.

    Under no circumstances should the union be forced to provide their services for free.
     
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  16. zubenelgenubi

    zubenelgenubi Well-Known Member

    You don't have to worry about scabs. There's not going to be a strike.
     
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  17. Imchar1

    Imchar1 Member

    Entitled? you mean like the concessions the union keeps agreeing to? Or do you mean the union agreeing to create an underclass of workers doing the same work for less money? You right im not entitled to any of that especially when I was a dues paying member. I did not pay dues to have the union do the company's bidding.
     
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  18. DirtySouth

    DirtySouth Active Member

    The problem with RTW laws is that they are rooted entirely in white supremacy.

    From The Ugly Racial History of “Right to Work” | Dissent:

     
  19. Time for change

    Time for change Active Member

    Speaking of scabs, there is a picture of Denis T circulating.

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