Beards

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by OKLABob, Nov 7, 2019.

  1. zubenelgenubi

    zubenelgenubi Well-Known Member

    I fully support your right to shave. Too bad you can't support other people's right not to.
     
  2. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    Real men would use a straight razor.

    They could make ceramic razor blades right now that would last the average man a lifetime but nope they’ll just make a fortune off you please.
     
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  3. brownmonster

    brownmonster Man of Great Wisdom

    Last time I went into my building I thought they were shooting an episode of Duck Dynasty.
     
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  4. rod

    rod retired and happy

    Let me guess. He don't brush his teeth or bathe regularly either.
     
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  5. rod

    rod retired and happy

    I hope he's on break being his truck number is right there. Maybe he will post in a selfie of himself coming out of the office hanging on to his butt cheeks .
     
  6. Johney

    Johney Well-Known Member

    What I find amazing is 30 years ago when I started there wasn't a single driver who had a skin condition or religious belief requiring them to have a beard. Hmmm.
     
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  7. rod

    rod retired and happy

    That's because back then UPS employed men who could actually shift a truck--not the crybabies of today.
     
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  8. over9five

    over9five Moderator Staff Member

    Right??
     
  9. MECH-lift

    MECH-lift Union Brother

    If UPS treats me like an amazon driver then I will look like one too..
     
  10. Mugarolla

    Mugarolla Light 'em up!

    Because. legally, they can.

    Our opinion on beards does not matter, and it's not about not supporting your right to not shave.

    You do not have the right to not shave as long as you voluntarily continue to work for a company with a no beard policy.

    The law allows employers to set appearance guidelines, including grooming. UPS has chosen, legally, a policy of no beards, except where it may discriminate against a protected class, or if it is a medical issue.

    It may be an outdated policy, but it is still a legally binding policy.

    You can apply for a religious or medical waiver.

    Can it be changed? Yes.

    But it's not very high on the Union's priority list. The Union has bigger issues to deal with than to try and force UPS to allow beards.
     
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    Last edited: Nov 8, 2019
  11. OKLABob

    OKLABob Active Member

    You must be management how’s your desk view today?
     
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  12. OKLABob

    OKLABob Active Member

    You must really miss ups retired and have nothing better to do then sit on brown cafe. Enjoy the little life you have left pops.
     
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  14. UPSER1987

    UPSER1987 Active Member

    Not retired you gossiping little girl. The point is most of these bearded fools look like jackasses. Outside of work do you still want to look like a fat lazy oaf? ; just to show ups how edgy you are? Now go back and find something else to tattle on snowflake.
     
  15. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    Was he responding to you? Nope.


    Typical management hasn’t a clue what’s going on.
     
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  16. UPSER1987

    UPSER1987 Active Member

    Responding to this snowflake. We got a bunch of Rhodes Scholars in here today.
     
  17. zubenelgenubi

    zubenelgenubi Well-Known Member

    I understand how it is, I shave every work day, no shaving cream, and against the grain. I am approaching this subject as how I think it should be. Facial hair should be a matter of personal preference, and companies shouldn't be able to impose their preference on their employees.

    I don't expect, or want, the union to take a stance on the matter. What I would like to see is people respecting others' personal choices in the matter. I would never try to force other people not to shave if they want to shave, and I expect others to treat me the same way in regards to my preference.
     
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  18. Mugarolla

    Mugarolla Light 'em up!

    I can respect that and will never have an issue with anyone for expressing their opinion, even if it is different than mine.

    I disagree.

    A company should have every right to have, and enforce, an appearance guideline as to how they think their employees should look.

    It is their company, and we are voluntarily continuing to work for that company.

    And btw, the Law agrees.

    Do you want someone like this representing your company walking into a business with a delivery?

    beard.jpg


    Does it stop at beards? Next the tat people will want their rights.

    Do you want this representing your company?

    tat.jpg
     
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  19. zubenelgenubi

    zubenelgenubi Well-Known Member

    My beard grows naturally and I have to put forth the extra effort to shave it, face tattoos are completely voluntary. I could argue the slippery slope the other direction too. If companies have the right to tell us what to do with this aspect of our bodies, where does their reach into our personal lives end? I personally don't have an issue with companies telling men to keep their beards well groomed, but not whether they can have one or not.
     
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  20. UPSER1987

    UPSER1987 Active Member

    Sounds like you’ll be starting your own business soon. Good luck with that.