Best Wishes to the Admins and Specialists, Supervisors and Others Leaving Today

FracusBrown

Ponies and Planes
The list is out today for specialists and Supervisor reassignments related to the restructuring. Today is the last work day for many Admins, Specialists and Supervisors that were displaced or eliminated in the restructuring.

I am surprised by some of the choices made in the selection process. There are quite a number of good people leaving the company. I have worked with many of these people over the years. I find it sad that a company of over 400,000 employees can't find a suitable job for these people, especially when we are continuously hire people to fill other positions. In some cases there are people that have been good employees for 20+ years.

Best Wishes to those who are leaving the company! Hopefully you each shall move on to bigger and better endeavors! I am looking forward to hearing some positive success stories for those leaving.
 

tieguy

Banned
It shouldn't be the specialists it should be I E and everyone at corporate.

many of those specialists leaving were in IE. This whole process while leave permanent scars. Many of the people that left were very dedicated upsers who walked the walk and put in the hours when the business needed them to do so. Whether you agreed with their job purpose or not you can not question Their dedication and committment.

Best wishes to the many fine dedicated upsers that left the company through this purge.
 

UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)

Well-Known Member
It shouldn't be the specialists it should be I E and everyone at corporate.

Don`t let the door hit you on the way out!!:happy-very:

Don't let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya.

These dedicated employees are losing their jobs through no fault of their own and you feel the need to throw salt in their wounds. They are people with families who looked at UPS as their career and built their futures based upon that fact.

Any of you care to rethink your comments?
 
many of those specialists leaving were in IE. This whole process while leave permanent scars. Many of the people that left were very dedicated upsers who walked the walk and put in the hours when the business needed them to do so. Whether you agreed with their job purpose or not you can not question Their dedication and committment.

Best wishes to the many fine dedicated upsers that left the company through this purge.
Im touched I thought I was on your ignore list hope your health is doing better.
 

Raw

Raw Member
These dedicated employees are losing their jobs through no fault of their own and you feel the need to throw salt in their wounds. They are people with families who looked at UPS as their career and built their futures based upon that fact.

Any of you care to rethink your comments?
Not me, I stand by my comment!! :happy2:
 

Coldworld

60 months and counting
As a UPS stockholder all dead wood jobs need to be eliminated!!:wink2:

not trying to slam your opinion, you have the right to say anything you want...its a free world but would this opinion have anything to do with the "general attitude" that has been happening around ups the last year or so from management?? Just curious.... you wouldnt be the only one that feels like that???
 

Coldworld

60 months and counting
It shouldn't be the specialists it should be I E and everyone at corporate.

There sure seems to be a huge resentment towards the IE dept here at ups...and rightly so..I believe so many problems associated with this company today are in direct relation to decisions that IE makes....you dont need to have a measurement for labor...any supervisor that is not blind can see if their driver is out there doing the job to the best of their ability and servicing their company...it is complete nonsense....especially a measurement that is so flawed in so many ways.
 

soberups

Pees in the brown Koolaid
There sure seems to be a huge resentment towards the IE dept here at ups...and rightly so..I believe so many problems associated with this company today are in direct relation to decisions that IE makes....you dont need to have a measurement for labor...any supervisor that is not blind can see if their driver is out there doing the job to the best of their ability and servicing their company...it is complete nonsense....especially a measurement that is so flawed in so many ways.

We need an IE department that generates accurate, verifiable work measurements that allow the company to properly plan and manage its operations.

Unfortunately, that isnt the IE department we currently have.
 

soberups

Pees in the brown Koolaid
These dedicated employees are losing their jobs through no fault of their own and you feel the need to throw salt in their wounds. They are people with families who looked at UPS as their career and built their futures based upon that fact.

Any of you care to rethink your comments?

I feel bad for anyone who loses a job thru no fault of their own....

But these people made a choice to go into management, and they knew or should have known what they were getting themselves into. Unfortunately for them, they bought into the "partnership" lie that corporate promoted for so long.

Some of the management people that got whacked were around 10 years ago when our stock went public. Their shares split and went up in value. Many of them became millionares on paper, while as an hourly I got a $.70 raise that year. I never resented them for their newfound wealth, because they had made their choice and I had made mine. Choices have benefits as well as consequences, and now they are seeing the other side of the coin. So am I.

There is no doubt at all that UPS has become bloated with too much dead weight in the upper management ranks. Something had to change, and it did. Unfortunately, some of the people who were let go probably didnt deserve it, while some of the people who survived probably didnt deserve to either.
 

Coldworld

60 months and counting
We need an IE department that generates accurate, verifiable work measurements that allow the company to properly plan and manage its operations.

Unfortunately, that isnt the IE department we currently have.

I guess your right...the key word is verifiable and accurate....
 

TheDick

Well-Known Member
Re: Best Wishes to the Admins and Speciialist and Others Leaving Today

I guess your right...the key word is verifiable and accurate....

How many supes that retired after the stock sale do you know of no have day jobs?
I know of 2 of my old supes. Agree with Sober. I didnt have stock at the time but they did and they doubled they're networth in one day. I wasnt bitter. They sacrificed marriages and children for the dream of being UPS management and won the lotto that day. Now look at the ones who didnt sell all that stock before the crisis.
 

Raw

Raw Member
not trying to slam your opinion, you have the right to say anything you want...its a free world but would this opinion have anything to do with the "general attitude" that has been happening around ups the last year or so from management?? Just curious.... you wouldnt be the only one that feels like that???
You nailed it! When I have perfect attendence for over 22 years, run scratch, over 20 years safe driving, memorized all the nonsense rhymes, aquire sales leads, have great business relationships with my customers, and still being treated like trash from management that I know can`t last at UPS for long....it is what it is, however small my part is at UPS, I have it down pat! Those that are expendable, bye-bye!!! :happy-very:
 

FracusBrown

Ponies and Planes
You nailed it! When I have perfect attendence for over 22 years, run scratch, over 20 years safe driving, memorized all the nonsense rhymes, aquire sales leads, have great business relationships with my customers, and still being treated like trash from management that I know can`t last at UPS for long....it is what it is, however small my part is at UPS, I have it down pat! Those that are expendable, bye-bye!!! :happy-very:

Everyone is expendable. Most of the people that were forced out were non-management admins. People that fixed payroll errors, administered benefits, and assisted management in resolving the problems of hourly folks were among those eliminated.

The mentality that all management is bad is as ridiculous as the the concept that all drivers (or hourlies) are bad. Regardless of our personal feelings, the fact is that every company needs management to be successful. There is always room for improvement on both sides and there are bad apples on both sides.

The very people despised are responsible for our job security. There is no such thing as a successful non-managed company. It's in our best interest to treat both sides with due respect and dignity.
 

soberups

Pees in the brown Koolaid
The very people despised are responsible for our job security. There is no such thing as a successful non-managed company. It's in our best interest to treat both sides with due respect and dignity.

The "management" of this company wastes valuable time and resources driving around in their cars to spy on us while we work. They piss away hundreds of $$ busting some guys balls over a broken $3 mirror; they give us crappy uniforms; they rig the time allowances to make scratch" impossible without skipping lunch; they put us on the road in dangerous vehicles with no power steering; they harangue us to meet sales lead quotas; they use Telematics to harass and micromanage us over 90-second time discrepancies; they force-feed 3rd grade word games and acronyms down our throats; they dispatch us in a manner that is often totally divorced from reality and common sense; and in general they expend huge amounts of effort trying to generate irrelevant metrics and justify their own careers instead of managing the business.

Responsible for my job security? A lot of these idiots are a threat to my job security. I am a successful UPS driver in spite of my management team, not because of them.
 

soberups

Pees in the brown Koolaid
You nailed it! When I have perfect attendence for over 22 years, run scratch, over 20 years safe driving, memorized all the nonsense rhymes, aquire sales leads, have great business relationships with my customers, and still being treated like trash from management that I know can`t last at UPS for long....it is what it is, however small my part is at UPS, I have it down pat! Those that are expendable, bye-bye!!! :happy-very:

They do what they do....because they are incapable of doing what you do.

People like you are the foundation of UPS. People like them...are like the curtains in the windows. You keep the structure upright and stable. They just make it look pretty.
 
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