California
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On any holiday weekend, if you left los angeles to head north, it would take you close to 3 hours just to get to santa clarita which is 30 miles north of los angeles in bumper to bumper traffic. From there, speeds are slow while gaps between cars is less than 1 car length in each lane until you get to the bakersfield split which is another hour and a half after santa clarita.
If there was no traffic, you could drive to frisco in less than 8 hours, but on holiday weekends, it will take you close to 11 hours.
On the high speed rail, you would be there in less than 2 hours.
You could rent a car for 19.95 for the day and put the rest of the savings into your pocket. Or you could be like the opponents of the rail system and spend 80 bucks every 2 hours on fuel that was wasted by the engine running at its most inefficient sequence sitting in traffic.
Thats the thought process of those opposed. IT makes more sense to them.
Peace
TOS
soberups
Pees in the brown Koolaid
Northern California is a beautiful place. I love the redwoods in particular.
The Peoples Socialist Republik of Southern California, on the other hand, is a polluted, overcrowded, crime-infested, bankrupt, nanny-state hell hole. Thank God it is at least 16 hours away from where I live. I wish it was further.
The Peoples Socialist Republik of Southern California, on the other hand, is a polluted, overcrowded, crime-infested, bankrupt, nanny-state hell hole. Thank God it is at least 16 hours away from where I live. I wish it was further.
Just think, in 25 years, the brown wave will hit your borders and work its way up to portland! How cool, gangs in the woods.... would be different, for sure. You got guns, they got guns, a dream scenario for ya!
Peace
TOS
Get a grip. Make up your mind, either we are being invaded by mexicans and the state is overcrowded, or people are leaving, which is yoru argument.
Peace
TOS
soberups
Pees in the brown Koolaid
The "brown wave" is here already. They bust their asses in the fields, picking crops and harvesting Christmas trees. I did that work as a teenager. Its the hardest work I ever did in my life until I got on at UPS. They arent the problem....its the socialist, uber-liberal SoCal nanny-state mentality that is the problem. We dont mind you granola-eaters coming up here to visit our fine state, as long as you turn right around and go home after you have spent your money.
The best thing about the project is the jobs it will provide for years to californians. This is the biggest priority for our state. It will only be more expensive to keep putting it off year after year.
Calfornians will change their travel habits once it is completed.
Peace
TOS
texan
Well-Known Member
California School District Will Spend $1 Billion to Borrow $100 Million HUH?
It’s being called a loan not even a subprime lender would make.
A school district north of San Diego, Poway Unified, borrowed $105 million over 40 years
by selling a bond so unusual that the State of Michigan outlawed it years ago.
Taxpayers in the area will end up with a nearly $1 billion bill at the end of this deal.
Read more: California School District Will Spend $1 Billion to Borrow $100 Million | Fox Business
It’s being called a loan not even a subprime lender would make.
A school district north of San Diego, Poway Unified, borrowed $105 million over 40 years
by selling a bond so unusual that the State of Michigan outlawed it years ago.
Taxpayers in the area will end up with a nearly $1 billion bill at the end of this deal.
Read more: California School District Will Spend $1 Billion to Borrow $100 Million | Fox Business
Dont forget, these are all republican controlled districts, and its the republican voters who keep them in office. It may be california, but its republican country there, this is just another example of right wing mathmatics.
Peace
TOS
moreluck
golden ticket member
(Sent to me by an ex-dist. mgr. Checked Snopes and Truth or Fiction and found nothing)
Roger Hedgecock was the Mayor of San Diego for many years and now writes a column and has a Syndicated Radio Show which does very well.
> Worth the read.
Written by Roger Hedgecock - former mayor of San Diego
I live in California. If you were wondering what living in Obama's second term would be like, wonder no longer. We in California are living there now.
California is a one-party state dominated by a virulent Democrat Left enabled by a complicit media where every agency of local, county, and state government is run by and for the public employee unions. The unemployment rate is 12%.
California has more folks on food stamps than any other state, has added so many benefits and higher rates to Medicaid that we call it "Medi-Cal." Our K-12 schools have more administrators than teachers, with smaller classes but lower test scores and higher dropout rates with twice the per-student budget of 15 years ago. Good job, Brownie.
This week, the once and current Gov. Jerry "Moonbeam" Brown had to confess that the "balanced" state budget adopted five months ago was billions in the red because actual tax revenues were billions lower than the airy-fairy revenue estimates on which the balance was predicated.
After trimming legislators' perks and reducing the number of cell phones provided to state civil servants, the governor intoned that drastic budget reductions had already hollowed out state programs for the needy, law enforcement and our schoolchildren. California government needed more money. Echoing the Occupy movement, the governor proclaimed the rich must pay their fair share. Fair share? The top 1% of California income earners currently pays 50% of the state's income tax.
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California has seven income tax brackets. The top income tax rate is 9.3%,
which is slapped on the greedy rich earning at least $47,056 a year. Income of more than $1 million pays the "millionaires' and billionaires'" surcharge tax rate of 10.3%. Brown's proposal would add 2% for income over $250,000. A million-dollar income would then be taxed at 12.3%. And that's just for the state.
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Brown also proposed a one-half-cent sales tax increase, which would bring sales taxes (which vary by county) up to 7.75% to as much as 10%. Both tax increases would be on the ballot in 2012. The sales tax increase proposal immediately brought howls of protest from the Left (of Brown!). Charlie Eaton, a sociology grad student at UC Berkeley and leader of the UC Student-Workers Union, said, "We've paid enough. It's time for millionaires to pay."
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At least five other ballot measures to raise taxes are circulating for signatures to get on the 2012 ballot in California . The governor's proposals are the most conservative.
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> The Obama way doesn't end with taxes. The governor and the state legislature continue to applaud the efforts of the California High Speed Rail Authority to build a train connecting Los Angeles and San Francisco . Even though the budget is three times the voter-approved amount and the first segment will only connect two small towns in the agricultural Central Valley . But hey, if we build it, they will
ride. And we don't want to turn down the Obama bullet-train bucks Florida and other states rejected because the operating costs would bankrupt them.
>
Can't happen here because we're already insolvent!
If we get into real trouble with the train, we'll just bring in the Chinese. It worked with the Bay Bridge reconstruction. After the 1989 earthquake, the bridge conecting Oakland and San Francisco was rebuilt with steel made in China . Workers from China too. Paid for with money borrowed from China . Makes perfect sense.
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In California , we hate the evil, greedy rich (except the rich in Hollywood, in sports, and in drug dealing). But we love people who have broken into California to eat the bounty created by the productive rich. Illegals get benefits from various generous welfare programs, free medical care, and free schools for their kids, including meals, and of course, instate tuition rates and scholarships too. Nothing's too good for our guests.
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To erase even a hint of criticism of illegal immigration, the California Legislature is considering a unilateral state amnesty. Democrat State Assemblyman Felipe Fuentes has proposed an initiative that would bar deportation of illegals from California. Interesting dilemma for Obama there. If immigration is exclusively a federal matter, and Obama has sued four states for trying to enforce federal immigration laws he won't enforce, what will the President do to a California law that exempts California from federal immigration law?
>
California is also near fulfilling the environmentalist dream of deindustrialization.
After driving out the old industrial base (auto and airplane assembly, for example, air and water regulators and tax policies are now driving out the high-tech, biotech and even Internet-based companies that were supposed to be California's future.
>
The California cap-and-trade tax on business in the name of reducing CO2 makes our state the leader in wacky environmentalism and guarantees a further job exodus from the state. Even green energy companies can't do business in California . Solyndra went under, taking its taxpayer loan guarantee with it.
>
No job is too small to escape the regulators. The state has even banned weekend amateur gold miners from the historic gold mining streams in the Sierra Nevada Mountains . In fact, more and more of California 's public land is off-limits to recreation by the people who paid for that land.
Unless you're illegal. Then you can clear the land, set up marijuana plantations at will, bring in fertilizers that legal farmers can no longer use, exploit illegal farm workers who live in hovels with no running water or sanitation, and protect your investment with armed illegals carrying guns no California citizen is allowed to own. The rest of us only found out about these plantations when the workers' open campfire started one of those devastating fires that have killed hundreds of people and burned out thousands of homes in California over the last decade.
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It's often said that whatever happens in California will soon happen in your state.
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You'd better hope that's wrong.
Roger Hedgecock
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> CALIFORNIA IS OBAMA’S DREAM
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Roger Hedgecock was the Mayor of San Diego for many years and now writes a column and has a Syndicated Radio Show which does very well.
> Worth the read.
Written by Roger Hedgecock - former mayor of San Diego
I live in California. If you were wondering what living in Obama's second term would be like, wonder no longer. We in California are living there now.
California is a one-party state dominated by a virulent Democrat Left enabled by a complicit media where every agency of local, county, and state government is run by and for the public employee unions. The unemployment rate is 12%.
California has more folks on food stamps than any other state, has added so many benefits and higher rates to Medicaid that we call it "Medi-Cal." Our K-12 schools have more administrators than teachers, with smaller classes but lower test scores and higher dropout rates with twice the per-student budget of 15 years ago. Good job, Brownie.
This week, the once and current Gov. Jerry "Moonbeam" Brown had to confess that the "balanced" state budget adopted five months ago was billions in the red because actual tax revenues were billions lower than the airy-fairy revenue estimates on which the balance was predicated.
After trimming legislators' perks and reducing the number of cell phones provided to state civil servants, the governor intoned that drastic budget reductions had already hollowed out state programs for the needy, law enforcement and our schoolchildren. California government needed more money. Echoing the Occupy movement, the governor proclaimed the rich must pay their fair share. Fair share? The top 1% of California income earners currently pays 50% of the state's income tax.
>
California has seven income tax brackets. The top income tax rate is 9.3%,
which is slapped on the greedy rich earning at least $47,056 a year. Income of more than $1 million pays the "millionaires' and billionaires'" surcharge tax rate of 10.3%. Brown's proposal would add 2% for income over $250,000. A million-dollar income would then be taxed at 12.3%. And that's just for the state.
>
Brown also proposed a one-half-cent sales tax increase, which would bring sales taxes (which vary by county) up to 7.75% to as much as 10%. Both tax increases would be on the ballot in 2012. The sales tax increase proposal immediately brought howls of protest from the Left (of Brown!). Charlie Eaton, a sociology grad student at UC Berkeley and leader of the UC Student-Workers Union, said, "We've paid enough. It's time for millionaires to pay."
>
At least five other ballot measures to raise taxes are circulating for signatures to get on the 2012 ballot in California . The governor's proposals are the most conservative.
>
> The Obama way doesn't end with taxes. The governor and the state legislature continue to applaud the efforts of the California High Speed Rail Authority to build a train connecting Los Angeles and San Francisco . Even though the budget is three times the voter-approved amount and the first segment will only connect two small towns in the agricultural Central Valley . But hey, if we build it, they will
ride. And we don't want to turn down the Obama bullet-train bucks Florida and other states rejected because the operating costs would bankrupt them.
>
Can't happen here because we're already insolvent!
If we get into real trouble with the train, we'll just bring in the Chinese. It worked with the Bay Bridge reconstruction. After the 1989 earthquake, the bridge conecting Oakland and San Francisco was rebuilt with steel made in China . Workers from China too. Paid for with money borrowed from China . Makes perfect sense.
>
In California , we hate the evil, greedy rich (except the rich in Hollywood, in sports, and in drug dealing). But we love people who have broken into California to eat the bounty created by the productive rich. Illegals get benefits from various generous welfare programs, free medical care, and free schools for their kids, including meals, and of course, instate tuition rates and scholarships too. Nothing's too good for our guests.
>
To erase even a hint of criticism of illegal immigration, the California Legislature is considering a unilateral state amnesty. Democrat State Assemblyman Felipe Fuentes has proposed an initiative that would bar deportation of illegals from California. Interesting dilemma for Obama there. If immigration is exclusively a federal matter, and Obama has sued four states for trying to enforce federal immigration laws he won't enforce, what will the President do to a California law that exempts California from federal immigration law?
>
California is also near fulfilling the environmentalist dream of deindustrialization.
After driving out the old industrial base (auto and airplane assembly, for example, air and water regulators and tax policies are now driving out the high-tech, biotech and even Internet-based companies that were supposed to be California's future.
>
The California cap-and-trade tax on business in the name of reducing CO2 makes our state the leader in wacky environmentalism and guarantees a further job exodus from the state. Even green energy companies can't do business in California . Solyndra went under, taking its taxpayer loan guarantee with it.
>
No job is too small to escape the regulators. The state has even banned weekend amateur gold miners from the historic gold mining streams in the Sierra Nevada Mountains . In fact, more and more of California 's public land is off-limits to recreation by the people who paid for that land.
Unless you're illegal. Then you can clear the land, set up marijuana plantations at will, bring in fertilizers that legal farmers can no longer use, exploit illegal farm workers who live in hovels with no running water or sanitation, and protect your investment with armed illegals carrying guns no California citizen is allowed to own. The rest of us only found out about these plantations when the workers' open campfire started one of those devastating fires that have killed hundreds of people and burned out thousands of homes in California over the last decade.
>
It's often said that whatever happens in California will soon happen in your state.
>
You'd better hope that's wrong.
Roger Hedgecock
>
>
> CALIFORNIA IS OBAMA’S DREAM
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texan
Well-Known Member
Fourth California Bankruptcy Comes Knocking
Just outside Los Angeles is the City of Compton, home to 93,000 people…a city running out of
money. As the city treasurer eloquently put it, he has $3.0 million in cash and $5.0 million in
bills due in the next month. (Source: Reuters, July 18, 2012.)
If debt restructuring decisions are not made soon, the City of Compton could file for
bankruptcy as early as September.
Fourth California Bankruptcy Comes Knocking
Just outside Los Angeles is the City of Compton, home to 93,000 people…a city running out of
money. As the city treasurer eloquently put it, he has $3.0 million in cash and $5.0 million in
bills due in the next month. (Source: Reuters, July 18, 2012.)
If debt restructuring decisions are not made soon, the City of Compton could file for
bankruptcy as early as September.
Fourth California Bankruptcy Comes Knocking
moreluck
golden ticket member
I was thinking, wait a minute...this is California we're talking about. There's bound to be some toad or desert bird or cactus that's endangered and can't be threatened by this encroachment.
Where are all those people who would be screaming if this project was an oil pipeline ????????????
moreluck
golden ticket member
Pay more taxes or get lousy schools ?? How about fix California or get another job?????
With schools as rallying cry, Gov. Brown wants high-taxed Californians to pay more | Fox News
With schools as rallying cry, Gov. Brown wants high-taxed Californians to pay more | Fox News
moreluck
golden ticket member
Here's a park that could benefit lots of people and it can't make it, But by all means go forward with the brain-dead train idea that no one will use......
Orange County's planned Great Park a victim of hard times - latimes.com
Orange County's planned Great Park a victim of hard times - latimes.com
moreluck
golden ticket member
No money for the train !! See me wringing my hands ??
No Money for High-Speed Rail - Los Angeles Local News, Weather, and Traffic
No Money for High-Speed Rail - Los Angeles Local News, Weather, and Traffic
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MenInBrown
Guest
California should succeed from the Union.
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